BB88
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Get Seabrook now and go after Shattenkirk next year, say goodbye to Krug and Seids to make the cap work.
It would be fantastic D group after that.
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Get Seabrook now and go after Shattenkirk next year, say goodbye to Krug and Seids to make the cap work.
It would be fantastic D group after that.
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That would be ideal.
Vbrata or Hamhuis anyone...??? http://www.hockeyfeed.com/report-tw...players-will-not-re-sign-could-force-a-trade/
Ice Nine
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Think I'd prefer Franson to Hamhuis.
But Vrbata would be an interesting signing. Though expensive, no doubt.
But does he fit The New Bruins?
(I've started to capitalize this, for greater emphasis on the Sweeney Era
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Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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if seabrook and shattenkirk cost the same as krug and seids then Chicago and st Louis will keep them
you better plan on cutting a lot more cap room from our roster.
would they be worth it? yeah probably... but be realistic. if we are adding these guys we are looking at minimum 14 mill cap hit once their current deals expire
Think I'd prefer Franson to Hamhuis.
But Vrbata would be an interesting signing. Though expensive, no doubt.
But does he fit The New Bruins?
(I've started to capitalize this, for greater emphasis on the Sweeney Era
I don't care how old Vrbata is. The guy had like 34 goals last season and has had many good seasons. I`d take him right away.
BB88
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Those 2 are too old to be re-signed, would have to give too much money and I don't like it.
Vbrata is 35y when the contract kicks in and Hamhuis 33y and no point to get these for just 1year.
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All this too old talk. How old was Iginla when we brought him here? 36? And he still had a 30 goal season. I know people who are 25 and feel 40 and 40 who feel 25. Enough with being too old.
Alberta_OReilly_Fan
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Think I'd prefer Franson to Hamhuis.
But Vrbata would be an interesting signing. Though expensive, no doubt.
But does he fit The New Bruins?
(I've started to capitalize this, for greater emphasis on the Sweeney Era
going to disagree... hamhuis is and ideal 3-4 do everything passable type guy that can work with a variety of partners. im not convinced Seidenberg is gassed... same type of player... these guys are always underrated
as for vrbata all he does is bounce from one team to another... he scores goals and yet every team he plays with has absolutely no hesitation letting him leave. he might be the least useful 30 goal scorer the nhl has seen since peter klima spent an entire career being useless in the 1980s
as for franson... hes tougher to peg down. everyone keeps waiting for him to be something. clearly he has a good skill package.
hes been a cronic under achiever so far... a coach killer... a team's whipping boy...
sometimes these guys eventually put it together though.
Ice Nine
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All fair points, though I just think Hamhuis is a bit older than what we need right now. I'd prefer to let some of the young D step up, or sign someone younger like Franson, as an alternative. Nothing against Hamhuis, he's absolutely solid, just think his cap hit and career arch isn't what we need right now.
BB88 made a good point about how old Vrbata is as well. Probably not worth his price, though I still think we need to find a legit top line winger before the puzzle is finally complete.
Franson -- you're also right, he seems to have all the tools, but hasn't fully put it together yet. But I think Julien could significantly help his defensive choices and positional play. With his size and physical play, he could blossom into a Boychuk type D, with more offensive contributions.
BB88
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I never said anything about sending Seids to Chicago, just picks/prospects would go to them. Krug++ to Blues. Shattenkirk will be a lot more expensive to re-sign than Krug will, saves them cap.
Well look at it this way, Krug+Seids out= 7.4M cap, we have now about 5.6M and after everything is done let's say we have 4M left= 11.4M cap space.
Then you bring in those 2, Shattenkirk 4.25M and Seabrook 5.8M= 10.05M
11.4M- 10.05M, we have 1.35M left.
Seabrook has to be re-signed after next year but so does Krug. Kelly+ Lucic's cap hit will go away= 5.7M added cap space, now we have around 7.05M cap space+ how much the cap goes up? Lou and Seabrook both get 1M raises on their new contracts and you have around 5M in cap space.
Shattenkirk has 2years left and in 2 years Chara's cap hit goes to 4M= another 3M saving, we could easily re-sign those guys if we want to.
We have ton of kids pushing into lineup with their ELC's giving us cap space.
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I'd trade for Hamhuis on the cheap. Keep him around for a year see how he gels with the Bruins blue line
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Ice Nine
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Unfortunately, might also be said for Shattenkirk. But they can't beat us on both. I'd prefer to go "all in" on the Shatty.
BB88
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Are you willing to give up a 1st?
Why would I want to re-sign a 35y guy around 5M?
Again the focus has to be on finding our future blue line leader, we have none in the system who could replace Chara, or are you thinking to keep Chara in Boston for 5-7years and hope he keeps beasting?
You don't pay that much money for those when you have a problem that will keep you away from winning.
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Hamuis is still a top 20 -30 dman the league. You guys are crazy saying he is a #4 or you'd take Franson who is a healthy scratch on a good team. If Lucic doesn't hurt Hamuis in 2011 Vancouver would have won that cup. He's q better version of Seidenberg in his 2011-13 form.
That said he is a very down to earth guy and I can see him signing a 1-2 year deal just to stay in Western Canada so Edm Cal and Van are likely to get discounts next summer if they are interested.
That said he is a very down to earth guy and I can see him signing a 1-2 year deal just to stay in Western Canada so Edm Cal and Van are likely to get discounts next summer if they are interested.
BB88
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Chara will be here most likely for the rest of his contract. Slowly but surely we can have a faster D while lowering Chara`s minutes.
So by your logic we need a fast young defenseman and who would that be? You also don't like 30 goal scorers in Vrbata even if it's one year for 5 mil. So let's just get a 2 million dollar player that will score 8 goals(Oh but he's 24 and young).
Do you want to score goals or what? There is cap room to get one more player basically. So do you want a scorer or a defenseman? Either way I would pay the most and get the bang for my buck.
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Okay
and I know.I have no idea why I have that, it's the exact opposite of me, maybe that's why
Okay
I have no idea why I have that, it's the exact opposite of me, maybe that's why
I just found it funny how you were saying people are too old and you have Einstein up there? Not pickin a bone just havin a good time lol.- Status
