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BB88

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Chara will be here most likely for the rest of his contract. Slowly but surely we can have a faster D while lowering Chara`s minutes.

So by your logic we need a fast young defenseman and who would that be? You also don't like 30 goal scorers in Vrbata even if it's one year for 5 mil. So let's just get a 2 million dollar player that will score 8 goals(Oh but he's 24 and young).

Do you want to score goals or what? There is cap room to get one more player basically. So do you want a scorer or a defenseman? Either way I would pay the most and get the bang for my buck.

Vbrata for 1year costs you 1st+, why on earth would we do that with this team right now?

Chara is not Chara anymore and we can't expect him to be beast #1D for 3 years, also like I said we have no one who could replace him, and you just spent 1st+ for rental Vbrata, important assets for finding that D.

I want to win and you can't win without strong D, without #1D, that has to be priority number 1 and not just get the most expensive rental to fill a hole when this team is not ready to go all in.

Our forward group and it's future looks a lot better than our D's,

Marchand-Bergeron
Eriksson-Krecji
Beleskey-Spooner
Kelly-Kemppainen can challenge anyone in this league, easily top5 lw+C combo, Rask is elite but the D is a mess.

Pasta should be a true top6 impact winger on his final ELC year and we watch how Connolly does next year, if he can't find his game we make a trade for top6 winger who is in his prime, that's what Sweeney is looking for, players in their prime to fit into his future longterm plans.

So I go all in for that 1st pairing D, it makes us a lot better than adding another top6 winger.
 

BB88

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;) I just found it funny how you were saying people are too old and you have Einstein up there? Not pickin a bone just havin a good time lol.

I'm 24y and athlete so noone would take me seriously without him as my avatar :laugh: But now that the playoffs are over and Chia gone I can go back to my original avatar.
 

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Vbrata for 1year costs you 1st+, why on earth would we do that with this team right now?

Chara is not Chara anymore and we can't expect him to be beast #1D for 3 years, also like I said we have no one who could replace him, and you just spent 1st+ for rental Vbrata, important assets for finding that D.

I want to win and you can't win without strong D, without #1D, that has to be priority number 1 and not just get the most expensive rental to fill a hole when this team is not ready to go all in.

Our forward group and it's future looks a lot better than our D's,

Marchand-Bergeron
Eriksson-Krecji
Beleskey-Spooner
Kelly-Kemppainen can challenge anyone in this league, easily top5 lw+C combo, Rask is elite but the D is a mess.

Pasta should be a true top6 impact winger on his final ELC year and we watch how Connolly does next year, if he can't find his game we make a trade for top6 winger who is in his prime, that's what Sweeney is looking for, players in their prime to fit into his future longterm plans.

So I go all in for that 1st pairing D, it makes us a lot better than adding another top6 winger.

I will agree that getting a defenseman is more important than getting a forward right now, especially if it will cost a 1st to get Vrbata. The D is where we have a hole and that needs to be filled. So if this means Cody Franson then so be it.
 

BB88

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Also...

The Hockey Chat ‏@TheHockeyChat 1h1 hour ago
Bruins are actively trying to move out salary #NHL

I will agree that getting a defenseman is more important than getting a forward right now, especially if it will cost a 1st to get Vrbata. The D is where we have a hole and that needs to be filled. So if this means Cody Franson then so be it.

We are 1 top6 winger and 1 1st pairing D +1 2nd pairing D short, so to me it's pretty easy choice to fix the D 1st.

If we get Franson seids has to be out, 4-5 slow players is xactly the opposite for what Sweeney has been saying.

But if we ship Seids out I'm starting to like the idea of Franson if the deal is not brutal(5/5 deal).

Chara-Franson-McQ= tougher to play against, they will make you pay.
Krug-C.Miller-x= elite skating, fast D-zone exits which will provide ton of offensive support.
"That's what Sweeney has been talking about this whole time, we need to be tougher to play against, we need to be faster, we need to have better/faster D-zone exits to provide offensive support."

But if it ends up with

Chara-Trotman
Seids-Franson
Krug-McQ I will hate it, absolutely ......... hate it. Krug can't do it all alone.
 

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Usually love your posts and opinions but how is a guy who was a HEALTHY scratch in the playoffs worth anything more than 2.5-3 M?!?

This is Martin Lapointe bad if Bruins sign this plug.

Like real estate you have to look at comprables. He'll get 4 to 5. I just want term down. So 3 would be good with me.
 

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Usually love your posts and opinions but how is a guy who was a HEALTHY scratch in the playoffs worth anything more than 2.5-3 M?!?

This is Martin Lapointe bad if Bruins sign this plug.

I`ll disagree, while Franson will never be mistaken for Langway out there, I won`t give the healthy scratch thing too much creed either, Laviolette has, for years, made coaching decisions I have often scratched my head at and against the Hawks, I thought Franson should have played more not less

On the Leafs, everyone looks bad and there are some like Dion and Gardiner who I genuinely believe are bad defensively, I don`t think I looked at Franson that way

One thing is certain, he can log big minutes, has an excellent shot and a very good first pass and is a RHD, I think he`s a better D man than Mike Green who signed what? A 6 million dollar deal? 4.5 for Franson is ok especially if it`s a 3 year deal

This team`s D right now is it`s biggest issue IMO and if I add a Franson I ask, will this make them stronger or weaker and for me, the answer is easily stronger
 

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Usually love your posts and opinions but how is a guy who was a HEALTHY scratch in the playoffs worth anything more than 2.5-3 M?!?

This is Martin Lapointe bad if Bruins sign this plug.

I don't look at it like that. Franson was brought into an odd situation in Nashville, they're defensive depth is so deep. I'm not surprised he was a scratch. In Boston and under a system like Clode's, he will succeed.
 

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The Hockey Chat is just a dude with an opinion. And he got his other info from thatyndon byers dude, ****, its probably the same guy
 

BB88

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I`ll disagree, while Franson will never be mistaken for Langway out there, I won`t give the healthy scratch thing too much creed either, Laviolette has, for years, made coaching decisions I have often scratched my head at and against the Hawks, I thought Franson should have played more not less

On the Leafs, everyone looks bad and there are some like Dion and Gardiner who I genuinely believe are bad defensively, I don`t think I looked at Franson that way

One thing is certain, he can log big minutes, has an excellent shot and a very good first pass and is a RHD

This team`s D right now is it`s biggest issue IMO and if I add a Franson I ask, will this make them stronger or weaker and for me, the answer is easily stronger

3y deal for Franson would be okay, every pairing would have a hitter, "tougher to play against".
We can have an elite skating team while having strong hitters on the lineup making opponents life tougher and make sure they hate playing against us.

Speed+Size is a deadly combo that will be entertaining to watch. I never want to see that 1st half team ever again.
 

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The Hockey Chat is just a dude with an opinion. And he got his other info from thatyndon byers dude, ****, its probably the same guy

Either way, they will probably be over if he is signed, so need to ship someone out (Kelly?) or maybe Seids.

Chara - Trotman/C.Miller
Krug - Franson
Morrow - McQuaid
K. Miller

I personally believe Krug could be a top 4 tweener, but will probably end up being a Green 3rd-pairing PP specialist for less money. Maybe Morrow can step up and take that spot. But I think Krug/Franson might not be a bad pairing. We get hung up on pairings sometimes too much. Claude definitely mixes and matches all game long, anyways.
 

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3y deal for Franson would be okay, every pairing would have a hitter, "tougher to play against".
We can have an elite skating team while having strong hitters on the lineup making opponents life tougher and make sure they hate playing against us.

Speed+Size is a deadly combo that will be entertaining to watch. I never want to see that 1st half team ever again.

the second half team wasn`t much better, only saved by some entertaining/refreshing (and scary defensively:)) play from Pasta and Spoons
 

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brace yourself, its an e4 :sarcasm:


Eklund -
According to three sources the Bruins and Franson are very close (e4). It's not done, but it could be any minute...stay tuned as things can always change quickly this time of year. A few phone calls and everything shifts.
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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What is the name of the new site with cap information?

Where are the B's in regard to the cap right now?

with 12 forwards/6dmen/1 goalie under contract we have just shy of 6 mill to spend...

no team wants to ever spend to the max...

our bonus situation with kids isn't as bad as it was the last couple years...

we will be dressing 4 additional players to get to the 23 man limit... they will cost less than 4 mill between them. we will often have additional contracts costing against us due to minor injuries like the flu... or a short leave of absence...

pretty much it means our cap is now spent. if we add franson we will need to eliminate a fairly significant contract to make room.

we should have room to make an addition at the deadline if we stand pat for now
 

DitClapper

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The Hockey Chat is just a dude with an opinion. And he got his other info from thatyndon byers dude, ****, its probably the same guy

I'm pretty sure Byers wouldn't run a little twitter page. If you didn't know, he was a former Bruin. Tough as nails.
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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If Eklund reports it, I'm not sure how credible it is.

he reports everything... whether he reports something or not doesn't lock it in stone.

in real life... many things are discussed that don't end up happening. real gms believe a trade has been made or a free agent has been signed... then a physical is failed... or a no trade clause is involked... or a fax machine doesn't work... or someone changes their mind

when Lindros was traded.... the rangers thought they traded for him... Edmonton thought they traded for dany heatley... thought they signed Mikael nylander. boston thought we traded kyle wanvig to Toronto... thought we got jarome iginla from Calgary

trades are super super super complicated... a trade reporter like eklund cant be expected to be more accurate when real gms aren't that accurate either

if you like eklund for entertainment... enjoy... if you expect him to know how trades are really working then you are the fool because real nhl gms cant release real trade information. its called tampering and real nhl gms will be fined if they do that.

as far as free agent signings go... agents want to get the best deal for their players and agents will often release information to the media. everyone knows boston and franson are talking seriously about a contract at this point.

eklund reporting it doesn't mean it will or wont get done. just that he is hearing the same reports im hearing. a few well placed media sources have gone on record saying that the talks are close
 

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No doubt the Bruins have talked to Franson's camp.

And Sweeney, rightfully so, wants to bank cap space for trade deadline, injury call ups and whatever else comes their way.

By the time they add a 13th forward, Franson would have to come in just under $4 million per year or someone would have to move on.

I know Kelly is everyone's favorite choice to move - and somewhat mine as well - but two teams on his list don't have the room without sending salary back, two others the Bruins would never trade with, and the remaining four - well he doesn't fit into their plans.

I also don't believe the Bruins have any intention on trading Kelly now - maybe at trade deadline depending on where they are, but not now.

If Sweeney can find a way - I'm all for it
 

Alberta_OReilly_Fan

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The Hockey Chat is just a dude with an opinion. And he got his other info from thatyndon byers dude, ****, its probably the same guy

if these guys want a legit source with tons of credibility they could listen to the 630 ched afternoon archieve from Friday when Elliot friedman twice told bob stauffer that boston and buffalo are hot after franson

friedman is a hockey night in Canada insider and is to sports net basically what Darren dreger is to tsn. he has tons of contacts that use him to funnel legit info into the media and he breaks stories
 

BB88

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No doubt the Bruins have talked to Franson's camp.

And Sweeney, rightfully so, wants to bank cap space for trade deadline, injury call ups and whatever else comes their way.

By the time they add a 13th forward, Franson would have to come in just under $4 million per year or someone would have to move on.

I know Kelly is everyone's favorite choice to move - and somewhat mine as well - but two teams on his list don't have the room without sending salary back, two others the Bruins would never trade with, and the remaining four - well he doesn't fit into their plans.

I also don't believe the Bruins have any intention on trading Kelly now - maybe at trade deadline depending on where they are, but not now.

If Sweeney can find a way - I'm all for it

Seidenberg should be the guy then, because after him it would be eriksson and I would hate to lose Eriksson, our winger group would be too weak after Lou for cap save trade.
Also Franson should be the 2nd pairings RD.
 
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