League News: NHL Talk - (News n' Scores n' Stuff) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[Ridley Simon]

I find Carlson's rating fair for him at this point in his career?

I do not. Guy played more minutes than like everyone, and carried the team to the playoffs.

There aren’t 25-30 (or whatever it was) D-men better than him.

I feel like goalies have become like RBs in the NFL in some aspects. Nobody wants to pay a massive number.

Not long term. I don’t think the AAV is the issue. It’s the term. G’s are so hit and miss. 8yrs is far too long. Even 5 is hard.

2-3yrs? Yeah, the Rags G should get 11m a year. But not for 5+ yrs?

Agreed, and I think it's for a similar reason -- they very often lack shelf life. In the NHL where contracts are guaranteed, it's even more crucial. If a great goalie wants top money for 4 years, let's talk. But just like every other position, when the time comes for them to get paid, they want the term, too. So it's not the dollar figure teams are balking at, in my opinion. It's that they want the huge money AND max term, which I'm not sure has ever really worked out super great for the teams in question.

Yeah. What he said!

 

[trick9]

I feel like goalies have become like RBs in the NFL in some aspects. Nobody wants to pay a massive number.

Starting goalies play less and less now. Decade ago Caps had Holtby playing 73 games and finishing with .923 SV% and 2.22 GAA. That's over 89% of the regular season. Jonathan Quick played 72 games that season.

Alexander Georgiev and Juuse Saros were the workhorses last season, playing 63 and 64 games but they were both ass last season. Georgiev didn't even have .900 SV%, he finished with .897. Connor Hellebuyck was the elite workhorse and he played 60 games. That's 'only' 73% of the regular season. But at this stage you really can't compare Hellebuyck to Swayman. Hellebuyck is the rare elite goalie that can plays a lot of games these days and not have his numbers nosedive, whereas Swayman has mostly played soft-minutes split with Ullmark and his career-high is 44 games. How much his numbers are going to drop when he takes the jump from 44 games to ~60 games? It's likely that his numbers will dive some, because now that he's the starting goalie, he mostly plays the toughest match-up's too, and his backup gets the Sharks, Blackhawks and teams like that who Swayman has feasted against. 2 of his 3 shutouts last season were against Sharks and Blackhawks.