HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Doublechin]

I felt that way until today. Chicago will go Demidov.

There seems to be more and more a hockey opinion that after your number one C, your top pairing RD is the hardest position to fill up

Based on that, one can hope that the Hawks fill in that spot here

 

[Sorinth]

I felt that way until today. Chicago will go Demidov.

For a team that needs everything it seems like such a huge mistake to take the winger over the defenceman especially since it's not like Demidov is at an undisputed higher tier. As much as fans talk about Chicago's dynasty being Kane & Toews, I think managements tend to see Keith as equally if not more important piece.

 

[Jaynki]

I felt that way until today. Chicago will go Demidov.

What has changed ?

 

[WeThreeKings]

What has changed ?

No longer small, his English is good and he's learning it in advance to make it to NA as soon as possible. If you're 50/50 and one guy just removed 2 biggest issues from his ledger..

 

[Naslund]

What has changed ?

Not much. Demidov can carry a conversation in English, has given an interview to EP Rinkside, and is probably 6'05'' instead of being 5'11.5". For these reasons, Chicago is now picking him over Lev per WTK.

 

[sampollock]

I felt that way until today. Chicago will go Demidov.

I think so too, they want offense

 

[Jaynki]

No longer small, his English is good and he's learning it in advance to make it to NA as soon as possible. If you're 50/50 and one guy just removed 2 biggest issues from his ledger..

Don't think it will change much in the grand scheme of things.

Scout/GM may like the insane skill level of Demidov. He is also competing against oversized Ds and oversized Cs. For all i know, these are the archetypes GM reaches for.

It will be a very interesting draft for sure. And an interesting week of speculation before.

I think they go Buium, and i am totally spitting it out of my ass. But i don't know, i think he displays some of the human qualities we saw in Slaf and Reinbacher and he has one hell of a resume. I wont get on the hockey part bc i know you are lower on him but i think he feel like the kind of candidate management is looking for.

 

[Banjo Cat]

I have only seen Sennecke play watching scouting vids. He is definitely intriguing. It's strange to see him stickhandle so well because he almost looks clumsy while doing it.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

No longer small, his English is good and he's learning it in advance to make it to NA as soon as possible. If you're 50/50 and one guy just removed 2 biggest issues from his ledger..

He was still pretty evasive about exactly when he'll be able to play in NA, FWIW. That would be my number 1 worry, above everything else.

 

[Naslund]

Don't think it will change much in the grand scheme of things.

Scout/GM may like the insane skill level of Demidov. He is also competing against oversized Ds and oversized Cs. For all i know, these are the archetypes GM reaches for.

It will be a very interesting draft for sure. And an interesting week of speculation before.

I think they go Buium, and i am totally spitting it out of my ass. But i don't know, i think he displays some of the human qualities we saw in Slaf and Reinbacher and he has one hell of a resume. I wont get on the hockey part bc i know you are lower on him but i think he feel like the kind of candidate management is looking for.

I think the major reason Chicago goes D is that after Celebrini, the three Fs (Demidov, Lindstrom and Iggy) are pretty much equal to the six Ds in terms of expectations, and next year the draft shift to being forward-heavy. Chicago will be a bottom feeder again, and will be able to choose a top forward to play with Bedard. They will take Lev or Dickinson IMO.

 

[Favster]

On other site, betting odds for 3rd overall are out
Silayev and Levshunov leading the way.

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You mean Levchunov and Demidov are 1-2. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, using gambling odds as if they have more knowledge than we do is wrong. They'll post an initial list based on projection at that time and it will mostly move based on the action they take. They wanna balance out the market and make $ off the VIG. These markers are not on feeds like the north american big 4 are on, they're manually trader by the traders. Atleast that's how I did it for the KK draft.

 

[Doublechin]

Not much. Demidov can carry a conversation in English, has given an interview to EP Rinkside, and is probably 6'05'' instead of being 5'11.5". For these reasons, Chicago is now picking him over Lev per WTK.

At this point Hockey GMs are worst than most tinder females seeking nothing below 6 feet tall

 

[sheed36]

I think so too, they want offense

Demidov would be the sexy pick (especially for the fanbase) but the RHD Levshunov would probably be the smarter pick. They'd then have their franchise center and their potential top pairing RHD in place, which are the 2 most difficult things to acquire in the NHL.

 

[Habidelidoo]

As much as fans talk about Chicago's dynasty being Kane & Toews, I think managements tend to see Keith as equally if not more important piece.

Keith was a 2nd rounder, maybe they think they'll find one later again.

 

[Whitesnake]

One of them will be available at 5

Why couldn't it turn out like that?
Celebrini
Demidov
Levshunov
Lindstrom?

 

[Jabba11]

Demidov would be the sexy pick (especially for the fanbase) but the RHD Levshunov would probably be the smarter pick. They'd then have their franchise center and their potential top pairing RHD in place, which are the 2 most difficult things to acquire in the NHL.

Honestly, they should pick Levshunov. Tank the next few years and get a chance at Gavin McKenna in 2026. Kyle Davidson knows what he wants, he was there for the runs with Toews-Kane, so if he doesn't see a true surefire winger to complement Bedard, he might go for someone like Duncan Keith or Seabrook type of player.

 

[le_sean]

Chicago will pick Demidov because he’s quiet. Levshunov seems like a good guy and will spill the beans on the stuff going on in their dressing room that they want to keep quiet.

 

[McGees]

I still think it goes:
1. Celebrini
2. Levshunov
3. WILD CARD
4. Demidov/Lindstrom/Sennecke
5. Whatever is leftover

 

[austin316]

I felt that way until today. Chicago will go Demidov.

I just have a hard time believing a professional organization is changing their draft plans because a player came in (maybe) 1 inch taller.

I imagine the teams already knew most of this information already anyways.

We just have to let the cards fall and see where we sit after the first 4 picks. If Demidov and Lindstrom are gone then we take the best defenseman or slide back a few spots and draft Sennecke. Still a win!

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Are NHL GMs like girls on tinder?

Passing on guys or moving guys up in the rotation because of an inch?

 

[Team_Spirit]

Reading the discussion it seems this year's draft is going to be the most exiting in recent years.

The biggest question for me, though, is this: if we draft Buium, are we grown up enough not to send him any Auschwitz jokes?

You already know.

 

[BeliveauFan4ever]

I'm sorry man but when you talk about Sennecke being all flash and dash, I can't help but question whether you watched him play in the 2nd half other than the highlights you mentioned. Not only does it go against the eye test but the people around the OHL were raving about the switch that went off in his game and how he played far more physical and was sacrificing his body. His team shot up the standings and then knocked off a couple of teams in the OHL largely because of his play. This went on for 5 months at the end of his draft cycle. This isn't someone who got hot for a couple of weeks.

Galchenyuk had a lot of non-hockey factors that led to his career going down the toilet. I don't know anything about Sennecke the person but if he has a good head on his shoulders and his willing to put in the work, someone may land a sexy gem with size in a draft that doesn't have a lot of forwards with top line upside.

And a word on Oshawa. They arrived for an OHL championship sniff a year early. Young team and they were not ‘loaded.”

They’ll have competition, but they were looking at next year possibly being their year.

 

[sampollock]

Demidov would be the sexy pick (especially for the fanbase) but the RHD Levshunov would probably be the smarter pick. They'd then have their franchise center and their potential top pairing RHD in place, which are the 2 most difficult things to acquire in the NHL.

I'm not sure Davidson's that smart

 

[Milhouse40]

You mean Levchunov and Demidov are 1-2. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, using gambling odds as if they have more knowledge than we do is wrong. They'll post an initial list based on projection at that time and it will mostly move based on the action they take. They wanna balance out the market and make $ off the VIG. These markers are not on feeds like the north american big 4 are on, they're manually trader by the traders. Atleast that's how I did it for the KK draft.

They are actually not 1-2 according to those odds.
Looks like they think Chicago is going Levshunov and Silayev going 3rd.

Off course, odds will change with the more info they get, but that what's betting sites are....ALL the infos you can get and interpret it mathematically, not with a confirmation bias approach which 99.9% of the Fans does, me included. They have mathematical info about people betting on their site too and sometimes, they have good info. They see the swings before we do.

There's a reason that right now there's nothing available for 4th overall pick but have the option for 5th overall.....once they have a more solid info, they will get it out.

 

[Favster]

They are actually not 1-2 according to those odds.
Looks like they think Chicago is going Levshunov and Silayev going 3rd.

Off course, odds will change with the more info they get, but that what's betting sites are....ALL the infos you can get and interpret it mathematically, not with a confirmation bias approach which 99.9% of the Fans does, me included. They have mathematical info about people betting on their site too and sometimes, they have good info. They see the swings before we do.

There's a reason that right now there's nothing available for 4th overall pick but have the option for 5th overall.....once they have a more solid info, they will get it out.

Oh ya was looking at odds for 2, my bad. I worked for a major gambling site (Sports Interaction) and built all the props markets for the KK draft. 100% of the info I used could be found here LOL, I'm not joking. Since the markets aren't on the feed, we were allowed to be way off what the consensus markets were or what other sites offer, our reputation wasn't at stake.

I'm telling you they don't see the swings earlier than what the public can see, they do constantly keep an eye on twitter and move their markets as quickly as possible. I remember when Dach at 3 leaked, we took it down 2 minutes late but took in the 5 digits, it was a rough one.