HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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Gally11

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I think the major reason Chicago goes D is that after Celebrini, the three Fs (Demidov, Lindstrom and Iggy) are pretty much equal to the six Ds in terms of expectations, and next year the draft shift to being forward-heavy. Chicago will be a bottom feeder again, and will be able to choose a top forward to play with Bedard. They will take Lev or Dickinson IMO.

D takes longer to develop too which should be a consideration when rebuilding
 
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Schooner Guy

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🤦‍♂️…okay.

Source/link? Because that’s not what I saw. I saw a player who maybe looked more engaged and motivated to make things happen more consistently (i.e., getting into traffic, getting to the dirty areas), mostly just with the puck on his stick though. His engagement and effort away from the puck was as inconsistent and fleeting as it’s always been.

I didn’t see him playing physical or using his body to gain advantage much at all. That’s not his game and he’s never played like that to any significant extent.
As I mentioned, I saw him in the CHL Prospects Game in Moncton where he showed off his magic touch with the puck (he also did well at the Combine in Moncton) and then followed him closely. I have the OHL pack and watched a lot of different teams broadcasts...many were raving about him plus my eyes observed a lot of his play. I was one of the first ones to be talking about him a lot in this thread. As far as sources go, I have the HP BlackBook open right now and there are NHL scout quotes and the analysis mentions that his production went up when his all-around game improved and talks about his improved physical play (they have him ranked #6). Like them or not, I know McCagg and Pronman also have been discussing this and even if you don't like their evaluation abilities, they both make a living parroting what NHL scouts are saying.

He isn't Lindstrom in terms of physicality but he is engaging physically which is why he succeeded in the playoffs. It's clear he's seeing the benefits as he figures out how to use his long frame for leverage and to protect the puck.

He's a good skater too for a lanky kid. Once he adds some weight to that tall frame, he's going to be more explosive. He's a kid who hasn't come close to plateauing yet relative to his peers like what often happens to some of the bigger names well before the NHL draft.
 
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Schooner Guy

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And a word on Oshawa. They arrived for an OHL championship sniff a year early. Young team and they were not ‘loaded.”

They’ll have competition, but they were looking at next year possibly being their year.
Yeah. This year's playoff success was certainly unexpected as was their surge up the standings after Sennecke heated up. He should have another long playoff run again next year and obviously be a key player.
 

Milhouse40

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Oh ya was looking at odds for 2, my bad. I worked for a major gambling site (Sports Interaction) and built all the props markets for the KK draft. 100% of the info I used could be found here LOL, I'm not joking. Since the markets aren't on the feed, we were allowed to be way off what the consensus markets were or what other sites offer, our reputation wasn't at stake.

I'm telling you they don't see the swings earlier than what the public can see, they do constantly keep an eye on twitter and move their markets as quickly as possible. I remember when Dach at 3 leaked, we took it down 2 minutes late but took in the 5 digits, it was a rough one.

I remember in 2022, this site went nuts when the odds switch in favor of Slafkovsky all day long......they must have know something before we did. And Reinbacher, which was by far not a favourite amongst fans and medias was the favourite the week before the draft (Tied with Leonard) on betting sites.
 

vokiel

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Why couldn't it turn out like that?
Celebrini
Demidov
Levshunov
Lindstrom?
Everyone assumes Chicago will pick Levshunov because they took him to dinner several times.

Also we're assuming Linstrom's injury is serious enough for the subject to be with him for several years.
 

Sorinth

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Keith was a 2nd rounder, maybe they think they'll find one later again. :)
And maybe they think they can sign another Hossa level winger.

At the end of the day Chicago should expect to finish in the basement again, and there's always good forwards available, that's not really true for D, especially RD. Anything can happen but if I was Chicago I'd be salivating at the thought of adding one of the Ds.
 

Habsfan18

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Demidov to Chicago and Lindstrom to Columbus really is a nightmare scenario…but of course it’s a legitimate possibility.

I feel like Anaheim is going D regardless, but who knows.

I’d go Iginla or Buium in this case, but I have a feeling Sennecke is our guy in this hypothetical. Can’t see it being anyone else.
 

WeThreeKings

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Demidov to Chicago and Lindstrom to Columbus really is a nightmare scenario…but of course it’s a legitimate possibility.

I feel like Anaheim is going D regardless, but who knows.

I’d go Iginla or Buium in this case, but I have a feeling Sennecke is our guy in this hypothetical. Can’t see it being anyone else.

Hopefully Sennecke but definitely Iginla ahead of Buium otherwise

Chicago holds the keys to our draft and the buzz on Demidov after one day when they were already debating Demi and Levshunov. You can put Demidov to 2 with a Bullet now.
 

Rockomax

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Demidov to Chicago and Lindstrom to Columbus really is a nightmare scenario…but of course it’s a legitimate possibility.

I feel like Anaheim is going D regardless, but who knows.

I’d go Iginla or Buium in this case, but I have a feeling Sennecke is our guy in this hypothetical. Can’t see it being anyone else.
Not only is it a legitimate scenario, but most probably the likeliest scenario at this point
 

austin316

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So Chicago passes on Demidov at 5’11 but drafts him at 6’0. This is comical. Chicago may very well end up taking Demidov but it won’t be because he is “maybe” one inch taller than originally expected. Do people really believe Chicago and other teams are altering their strategy because of one inch?
 

crosbyshow

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So Chicago passes on Demidov at 5’11 but drafts him at 6’0. This is comical. Chicago may very well end up taking Demidov but it won’t be because he is “maybe” one inch taller than originally expected. Do people really believe Chicago and other teams are altering their strategy because of one inch?
Are you surprise? Half of the comments are about height and weight....

Have you ever heard someone saying that we should draft a 6.4 forward instead of a 6.3 ? No

On the other hand people are crazy about a 6.0 player instead of a 5.11....
 

Skip Bayless

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WTF is wrong with his face? Is this what he looks like when he says 'cheese'?

Another add to Skip's DND list?

Nah, Eiserman is my boy. That ugly mfer will score when it matters the most.

So Chicago passes on Demidov at 5’11 but drafts him at 6’0. This is comical. Chicago may very well end up taking Demidov but it won’t be because he is “maybe” one inch taller than originally expected. Do people really believe Chicago and other teams are altering their strategy because of one inch?

Yes. Every inch matters.
 

Ozmodiar

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I have only seen Sennecke play watching scouting vids. He is definitely intriguing. It's strange to see him stickhandle so well because he almost looks clumsy while doing it.
Yes, it’s like part video game KK and part real life KK. Puck on a string but awkward doing it.
 

Rockomax

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So Chicago passes on Demidov at 5’11 but drafts him at 6’0. This is comical. Chicago may very well end up taking Demidov but it won’t be because he is “maybe” one inch taller than originally expected. Do people really believe Chicago and other teams are altering their strategy because of one inch?
Has nothing to do with his size, everything to do with actually getting to meet with him
 

JackZap

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Demidov to Chicago and Lindstrom to Columbus really is a nightmare scenario…but of course it’s a legitimate possibility.

I feel like Anaheim is going D regardless, but who knows.

I’d go Iginla or Buium in this case, but I have a feeling Sennecke is our guy in this hypothetical. Can’t see it being anyone else.

not being 4th in back to back drafts might be a disaster for us.
 
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Ozmodiar

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So Chicago passes on Demidov at 5’11 but drafts him at 6’0. This is comical. Chicago may very well end up taking Demidov but it won’t be because he is “maybe” one inch taller than originally expected. Do people really believe Chicago and other teams are altering their strategy because of one inch?
Correct - they use the metric system.

“Wait! You’re telling us he’s 183 cm and not 181 cm??!! Get Milstein on the phone!!”
 
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McGees

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Ana is guaranteed taking a Dman - only a question of Levshunov or Silayev IMO
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