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Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

Canada4Gold

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Not sure how I feel about this tbh. Both Romano and Garcia had injury issues last year. They don't want Romano back but want Yimi back for the same price for 2 years. It's pending physical so obviously if they also don't like his medicals they can pull out of the deal. Romano's medicals must have been a serious issue or Yimi's must be quite good for them to be ok with 1 and not the other

On a positive note. 9 minutes until we get the first overall pick
 
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Starry Knight said:
I get that people hate Shapiro and Atkins (and not completely without reason), but the past couple seasons have had some seriously GM-independent issues that are out of a teams' control.

If Alek Manoah didn't spontaneously combust, then the Jays have an ace starter to go along with their otherwise stellar rotation. Yeah, you shouldn't count on young pitchers to not have their arms blow up, but Manoah had a 2.24 ERA over nearly 200 innings. If you don't make a gamble on him maintaining that form, you are going to be forever a doomsday prepper.

If Bo Bichette didn't have a season from hell, the Jays would continue to have one of the best offensive shortstops in the game. Bo certainly has had some holes in his swing, but you can't expect your 5 fWAR SS to suddenly become a 0.3 fWAR SS.

If Romano was still Romano last season, the bullpen wouldn't have been as big of a dumpster fire, because everyone would have been pushed down a slot.

Hard to win when 8-10 WAR from premium positions get wiped off the map when they were planned as focal points for the past 1-2 seasons.

I feel like sports fans get in this cycle where they find it easier to be miserable and negative about their team because they are in a no-lose situation mentally. If the team does poorly, they can feel vindicated about their negativity and lord it over fans that choose to not be hopelessly negative. However, if their team ends up doing well, they can still be pleasantly surprised and be a bandwagon fan. This has completely poisoned discourse about about sports online and you can use this thread as prime evidence.
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All true but this is where a team who has built farm and the Bigs properly would just reach down to their farm system and pull out a gem. Seems like every time you turn around the Dodgers, Astros, Baltimore are pulling someone out of their ass from their farm and that person is a difference maker, why cant that be us?
 

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Canada4Gold said:
Not sure how I feel about this tbh. Both Romano and Garcia had injury issues last year. They don't want Romano back but want Yimi back for the same price for 2 years. It's pending physical so obviously if they also don't like his medicals they can pull out of the deal. Romano's medicals must have been a serious issue or Yimi's must be quite good for them to be ok with 1 and not the other

On a positive note. 9 minutes until we get the first overall pick
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Im just hoping they dont fall from 5.
 
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shaner8989 said:
Trade VLAD trade Bo start over. That’s the only option left

Get a whack of sick prospects and go from there

This team ain’t even close to competing. Worst team in the East
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I would agree with you but then its Atkins doing those trades , do we really trust him to get anything more that a Toaster oven for those two? I say let the team bottom out in the first two months, fire the coach, then a month or two later Atkins is gone and the new guy can try to turn this limp turd of a franchise nugget into something. Is Gillick still around? He's probably 102 years old but would do a hell of a lot better than these fools..
 

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Canada4Gold said:
Not sure how I feel about this tbh. Both Romano and Garcia had injury issues last year. They don't want Romano back but want Yimi back for the same price for 2 years. It's pending physical so obviously if they also don't like his medicals they can pull out of the deal. Romano's medicals must have been a serious issue or Yimi's must be quite good for them to be ok with 1 and not the other

On a positive note. 9 minutes until we get the first overall pick
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I look at like they are more familiar with the two pitchers medical situations than any of us. Perhaps they were more concerned with Romano.

Regardless, if Jimi pitches like he did for us last year he’s a good add, as long as Schneider doesn’t put him out there 4 times in 5 days. He’s not ideal as a closer, but can be a pretty solid setup guy.
 
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habamillions said:
Im just hoping they dont fall from 5.
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MLB lottery is different where they draw for the first 6 picks so to not fall to 7th or below they have to win a lottery at some point. Rather than the NHL where you can stand pat if the teams above you win the 3 picks. All semantics I guess but if they have to win 1 lottery to stay top 5 might as well make it the first one
 

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Canada4Gold said:
MLB lottery is different where they draw for the first 6 picks so to not fall to 7th or below they have to win a lottery at some point. Rather than the NHL where you can stand pat if the teams above you win the 3 picks. All semantics I guess but if they have to win 1 lottery to stay top 5 might as well make it the first one
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That what i worry about. Cleveland won with a 2% chance last year.
 
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Kurtz said:
Not sure about this one - I can think of a couple of posters who used to defend absolutely everything this mgmt group did...including one poster who has now done a 180 on that and has gone from only good vibes to full negative.

Not that that's such a bad thing - balance is good.
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Definitely sounds like shaner.
 
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Ale Brew said:
That report has since been refuted by Davidi and BNS. Supposedly our offer was below $700M.
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750, 650, 550 for a one dimensional elite hitter who is shitty on the base paths, iffy on defence... is stooooooooopid no matter what price was. I'm legit happy the Mets signed him.

So when we go to sign Vlad because of our dumbass offer to Soto, our Soto offer now sets a bar for Vlad, that makes him what a 500 mil player? Compare the two players last year... how do you tell your super star 1B, yeah we know your stats were in the same ball park as Soto, maybe a notch or two below, with no Aaron Judge batting behind you to protect you but we see you more as a $400,000,000 player vs the $700,000,000 mil player that we offered to Soto. Soto is an elite hitter but Vlad is still a pretty decent hitter, that you can build your lineup around, plus Vlad is a better fielder.
 
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