Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Emerica]

 

[EpochLink]

Oh wow, who are we giving up?

 

[Bjindaho]

No!

 

[WeThreeKings]

Cant wait to see Tiedemann Orelvis and Yesavage going the other way

 

[Eyedea]

I’ve been expecting this (Gimenez getting moved) since his 2023 year tbh. He’s still a quality player but the bat has gone cold the last two years and Cleveland can’t really afford to pay him if he isn’t contributing like his ‘22 season.

 

[habamillions]

Interesting. Has a bit of offense but great infielder. Wonder why cleveland wants to get rid of him. Dont want to see what they gave up

 

[GreytWun]

Yankees get Fried

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Gimenez is a classic Shatkins player. I don't have much hope for his bat turning around

 

[jetsforever]

Cool about Giménez, hope we didn't give up too much though

 

[saska sault]

Echo the thoughts of not giving up much... team can't afford to have too many glove first players in the AL East.

 

[phillipmike]

Shocking.

He has a 4 WAR season last year, 5.3 WAR a year ago and 7 WAR 2 years ago. Elite defensively with a lefty bat but I’m shocked. Steals 30 bags.

Defensr first guy. No bat and we have so much depth at this position. Thought this was Wagner’s spot.

Gimenez contract is terrible;

$10M
$15M
$23M
$23M
$23M
$23M Team option

We better be getting a sweetener back or Springer is going the other way.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Shocking.

He has a 4 WAR season last year and 7 WAR 2 years ago. Elite defensively with a lefty bat but I’m shocked.

Defensr first guy. No bat and we have so much depth at this position. Thought this was Wagner’s spot.

Gimenez contract is terrible;

$10M
$15M
$23M
$23M
$23M
$23M Team option

We better be getting a sweetener back or Springer is going the other way.

Wouldn't be shocked if Wagner is going the other way. I feel whelmed by it right now. He is a pretty safe bet for a 2-3 win player due to his unbelievable defense....but we need to hit lol

 

[tmlfan98]

Steamer projects Gimenez for a 104 wRC+ and 3.1 fWAR in 2025. Not bad for 15.2M AAV.

 

[Bjindaho]

Steamer projects Gimenez for a 104 wRC+ and 3.1 fWAR in 2025. Not bad for 15.2M AAV.

Yeah, but he hasn't been at that level in the last two years.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Really hope this is more of a money dump than a buy from us. Good player but more defense than offense which isn't exactly what we need. Maybe he can somehow get back to his 2022 form with the bat.

Baseball trade value has him at 10 million surplus. Feels like 1 of the glut of infielders we have might be going back. Wagner/Jimenez + a meh prospect?

 

[tmlfan98]

Yeah, but he hasn't been at that level in the last two years.

He had 2.8 fWAR in 2024 and 3.8 fWAR in 2023. If those are his "off years", I'll take that for 15.2M AAV.

 

[aingefan]

Didn’t see money going to 2B
Curious to hear the return

Brutal draft lotto outcome.

 

[MK78]

Doubling down on run prevention I see.

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Yeah, but he hasn't been at that level in the last two years.

The bat wasn't but he was a 2.8 fWAR last year and 3.8 in 2023. Both with a sub 100 wRC+. I think he is probably just a below average hitter at this point but his defense will drag him to 2-3 wins.

 

[Ale Brew]

Yeah, but he hasn't been at that level in the last two years.

He was a 4 war this year and 5 war the season before (and over 7 in 2022), primarily based off his excellent glove.

IF the bat rebounds he can be a VERY valuable player.

 

[Bjindaho]

He had 2.8 fWAR in 2024 and 3.8 fWAR in 2023. If those are his "off years", I'll take that for 15.2M AAV.

At some point, Toronto needs some offense.

 

[SoupNazi]

I’ve been expecting this (Gimenez getting moved) since his 2023 year tbh. He’s still a quality player but the bat has gone cold the last two years and Cleveland can’t really afford to pay him if he isn’t contributing like his ‘22 season.

As a Cleveland fan, I'm of two minds on this. I agree with you based on the bat, but damn that glove was a treat to watch. Like seriously, you'd see him get a seemingly ungettable ball and go "how the f*** did he do that?" two or three times a game.

 

[Ale Brew]

At some point, Toronto needs some offense.

Yeah, this has to be paired with a Santander or other big bat addition. Maybe even a couple of additional bats.

 

[Bjindaho]

Unless big money is going out, Atkins has spent somewhere between half and 2/3 of his offseason budget on Garcia and Gimenez.

 

[Woodman19]

Guess the plan is to have a Varsho at every position and win games 1-0 after 18 innings