Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Vector]

f***ing joke of an orgainzation. f***ing pathetic

Zero direction.

Disgusted. I’m just about done with this franchise.

Never mind, this trade is awesome.

 

[EpochLink]

f***ing joke of an orgainzation. f***ing pathetic

Zero direction.

Disgusted. I’m just about done with this franchise.

Okay there buddy

 

[Bjindaho]

Sandlin and Gimenez for Horwitz is fine on paper. Sandlin has good K numbers but poor BB numbers.

The issue is money (unless something like a Bo deal is next).

 

[DackellDuck]

So they’re going to be paying Gimenez $24M a year while haggling with and likely losing Vladdy (and Bichette) because Atkins wants to focus on “responsible sustainability”?

Cool.

 

[saska sault]

Horwitz has 360 career at bats vs almost 2000.... same batting average, one player is a 3 time gold glover and younger... salary? Who cares. One is proven and plays with a premium glove. If this was the only move I'd be disappointed but surely it isn't.

 

[Woodman19]

Any chance we could see Gimenez at SS?

 

[Eyedea]

We still have Horwitz 2.0 at home (Alan Roden).

 

[habamillions]

Sandlin's not enough. He's fine and probably needed but gives up far too many HR's to move the needle here

Yeah he is odd. Went 8-0 but he is a negative war

 

[TheBeastCoast]

Any chance we could see Gimenez at SS?

He is likely a better SS then Bo is defensively.

 

[Bjindaho]

Any chance we could see Gimenez at SS?

If Toronto's SS happened to get dealt for a monster package, one of Gimenez/Clements would play SS.

 

[Canada4Gold]

Stating Horwitz is the better player is pretty premature... considering he's worse defensively, older, and has yet to have a season as good as Gimenez.

Horwitz had more fWAR per game last season as a rookie than Gimenez did last year. It was close though and given Horwitz is a year older I'm willing to call them equal players. Horwitz has an extra year of control, is way cheaper and most importantly has the offense we desperately need. Sandlin's not even close to enough to make up for it and sounds like we're giving up more too

 

[Ale Brew]

Any chance we could see Gimenez at SS?

I was wondering the same, like he’s the plan once Bo walks or is dealt.

 

[shaner8989]

Big whopping 9 Hr with a .250 avg.

Makes a cool catch here and there.

Horowitz has better offensive stats in every single category.

We are now a weaker hitting team. We are a legit joke

 

[Woodman19]

I was wondering the same, like he’s the plan once Bo walks or is dealt.

Thats what I was thinking too, gives us some security up the middle beyond this year.

 

[Tony Romo]

Wonder if we see a DH heavy bat signed soon.

 

[DackellDuck]

Horwitz has 360 career at bats vs almost 2000.... same batting average, one player is a 3 time gold glover and younger... salary? Who cares. One is proven and plays with a premium glove. If this was the only move I'd be disappointed but surely it isn't.

Rogers cares about money. $24M could be much more wisely spent.

 

[Puckstuff]

This makes more sense if we’re signing Christian Walker to full time DH

 

[saska sault]

Rogers cares about money. $24M could be much more wisely spent.

Maybe. Time will tell. It's alot of money if nothing else is moved around, I don't disagree. We have been waiting weeks for any news from the Jays, things will still happen to change the landscape of the team.

I was not a happy fan the last 2.5 seasons or so... so I'm as skeptical as anyone. Baseball off season just moves in it's own time.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Canada4Gold]

Good job guys. I am no longer upset about dropping 3 spots in the draft lottery.

 

[Dr.Funk]

This makes more sense if we’re signing Christian Walker to full time DH

If we sign Christian walker he is our first baseman. He's very good defensively.

 

[Ale Brew]

This makes more sense if we’re signing Christian Walker to full time DH

He’s also a 3 time GG winner. More likely Pederson or Santander I’d think.

 

[Woodman19]

That trade is a pure win IMO, we just dealt a 40-man DH type without pop for a starting middle infielder. The money isnt insane for a market of our size and it puts us in play to be able to go get Teo/Santander and have a clearly upgraded lineup.

 

[Eyedea]

Horwitz had more fWAR per game last season as a rookie than Gimenez did last year. It was close though and given Horwitz is a year older I'm willing to call them equal players. Horwitz has an extra year of control, is way cheaper and most importantly has the offense we desperately need. Sandlin's not even close to enough to make up for it and sounds like we're giving up more too

Horwitz is also not going to be in the lineup everyday by virtue of him being a strict platoon hitter.

 

[shaner8989]

Good job guys. I am no longer upset about dropping 3 spots in the draft lottery.

Cant tell that to the posters here. It’s actually embarrassing that people think this is good at all. f***ing fraud management