Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

Discoverer

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I don't see any universe where he doesn't at least bring back someone another team was considering non-tendering (like Finnegan)/
I don't know... Romano signing for exactly his arb projection suggests his surplus value was zero, doesn't it?

If you think of Romano for Finnegan as a reasonable deal, then if the Jays were to sign Finnegan for less than his arb projection, would your opinion of Romano's non-tender change? I know it was just an example, but I think there are several ways it could end up working out. It's a long offseason.
 

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I don't know... Romano signing for exactly his arb projection suggests his surplus value was zero, doesn't it?

If you think of Romano for Finnegan as a reasonable deal, then if the Jays were to sign Finnegan for less than his arb projection, would your opinion of Romano's non-tender change? I know it was just an example, but I think there are several ways it could end up working out. It's a long offseason.
The Jays only had to commit 6.8 to keep Romano. He signed for his projected arbitration number, but trading would mean that the acquiring team got him with no hurdles. My opinion of the non-tender would not change based on signing Finnegan below his arb number, because he hit the open market (it's also very unlikely because the Cubs are interested). The point of this is that good teams generally don't give up arb years of guys with this kind of track record to pinch pennies.
 
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The Jays only had to commit 6.8 to keep Romano. He signed for his projected arbitration number, but trading would mean that the acquiring team got him with no hurdles. My opinion of the non-tender would not change based on signing Finnegan below his arb number, because he hit the open market (it's also very unlikely because the Cubs are interested). The point of this is that good teams generally don't give up arb years of guys with this kind of track record to pinch pennies.
I'm not sure what the bolded means. If they traded him, wouldn't the acquiring team still have to go through the arbitration process with him?
 

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I'm not sure what the bolded means. If they traded him, wouldn't the acquiring team still have to go through the arbitration process with him?
The bolded means that any team could acquire him and would be able to sign him (the projections are usually so good that he would be silly not to accept). By letting him hit free agency, they risk him signing with someone else (especially a rival) or having to pay more.
 
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Not sure about this one - I can think of a couple of posters who used to defend absolutely everything this mgmt group did...including one poster who has now done a 180 on that and has gone from only good vibes to full negative.

Not that that's such a bad thing - balance is good.

Balance is good
 

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He wants warm weather lol so I think that takes TO out of the equation. At least I am pretty sure some reporter (shrill) claims this.
I dunno….I could walk around in a t-shirt today….that’s not bad? Lol

Interesting move with Garcia if confirmed.

I liked him a lot here, and love Clase, so win win.

Lotsa righties in there for now.
 
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Dont mind garcia at all.as long as its for a setup role. He can close in a pinch to like green but still need an actual closer
Another one of those 'let's see what's next' moments to decide if we should be happy. Garcia is good for the 7th inning and maybe the 8th, depending on whether we get a closer. Using Green and Garcia for the 9th and 8th would feel a bit risky.
 
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Dont mind garcia at all.as long as its for a setup role. He can close in a pinch to like green but still need an actual closer
Yeah, if they can add one of the better FA closers or trade for one of the rumoured guys, the pen will suddenly start to look really solid with new guy/Garcia/Green at the backend, a potential rebound from Swanson, and a few wild cards.

Another one of those 'let's see what's next' moments to decide if we should be happy. Garcia is good for the 7th inning and maybe the 8th, depending on whether we get a closer. Using Green and Garcia for the 9th and 8th would feel a bit risky.
Hopefully it plays out better than last year's search for a bat, where every move was fine enough as long as they made the big addition they needed.
 

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He wants warm weather lol so I think that takes TO out of the equation. At least I am pretty sure some reporter (shrill) claims this.
This seems like a bit of a strange thing for baseball. HOckey, sure. Not that many teams in the majors have issues with cold weather during most of the season. In a weird way TO's weather might be a plus compared with some of the nasty stuff that happens these days June through September. You may have a cold April but you won't be dealing with 107 degree weather in July.
 

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I could have sworn someone in this thread said something about how an article was trying to manifest a Garcia reunion.

Sure enough, there it is. Don't mind it either. He was great before they traded him
 

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