Toggle sidebar

2023-24 Roster Thread #7: A shave and a haircut, two bits

  • Work is still on-going to rebuild the site styling and features. Please report any issues you may experience so we can look into it. Click Here for Updates

How many total points will the 2023-24 Flyers compile at the end of the season?

  • Total voters
    27
  • Poll closed .
Status
Not open for further replies.
Just something I'm thinking with what we've seen today, what if Laughton or Hathaway were traded to Edmonton for Connor Brown-plus?
 
Hopefully these extensions mean that they're making choices on players. Tippett and Poehling stay while Konecny and Laughton go?
 
Larry44 said:
His recent revelation of an ongoing health issue sounded something like Crohn's or IBS, an ongoing problem confused with the flu or food poisoning. Hope he gets healthy.

I really hope it's not Hockey Canada related
Click to expand...
Those two are significantly impacted by stress, so it could easily be both an ongoing health issue and the investigation at once.
 
  • Like
Reactions: usahockey22flyers, BernieParent, wankstifier and 2 others
wankstifier said:
Lol... who are they trading? Farabee?
Click to expand...

Ellis' $6.25MM isn't even on LTIR right now. Petersen and TDA come off the books for $6.7MM by 25-26. Uhhh Hart's $4MM. Hathaway's $2.8MM. If Laughton is still here, I'd believe it, but that's $3MM. Atkinson will either be gone completely or bought out. Cates will be a curious one.

It's pretty easy to fit Konecny's raise. It's assuredly happening. Really all their RFAs (Foerster, Brink, Zamula) probably aren't crazy re-signs either. At most, you're probably seeing Drysdale and Frost and York get long-term deals.
 
  • Like
Reactions: wankstifier, renberg and SnS
Magua said:
Ellis' $6.25MM isn't even on LTIR right now. Petersen and TDA come off the books for $6.7MM by 25-26. Uhhh Hart's $4MM. Hathaway's $2.8MM. If Laughton is still here, I'd believe it, but that's $3MM. Atkinson will either be gone completely or bought out. Cates will be a curious one.

It's pretty easy to fit Konecny's raise. It's assuredly happening. Really all their RFAs (Foerster, Brink, Zamula) probably aren't crazy re-signs either. At most, you're probably seeing Drysdale and Frost and York get long-term deals.
Click to expand...
And Michkov is on an ELC in 2026, probably same with Bonk. The 3 1st rd picks the next two years won't even be on an ELC until 2026 or 2027 at the earliest. So you won't even need cap room until 2030+ unless you're planning to make a "Hamilton" move, overpay a 29 year old FA.

I think the Flyer brain trust would rather extend their own players, use up that extra cap room the next four to five years, instead of overpaying for older mercenaries when Michkov arrives. The one exception would be G if he's still playing well when his contract expires after next season.
 
Pretty sure Kaprizov is a UFA the year Michkov can come over. That's the type of impact player I would like to see them go for as opposed to the Hayes types of the world.
 
Striiker said:
Those two are significantly impacted by stress, so it could easily be both an ongoing health issue and the investigation at once.
Click to expand...
Yes, good points. Either way, he was shitting his pants because he's accused of something that could end his career and land him in jail. Must've been very stressful having that hanging over your head.
 
  • Like
Reactions: renberg and Striiker
sauce88 said:
Pretty sure Kaprizov is a UFA the year Michkov can come over. That's the type of impact player I would like to see them go for as opposed to the Hayes types of the world.
Click to expand...

I mean, that would be a brilliant franchise changing move.

But I've seen this story before: an elite Russian winger hits UFA, but the Flyers prefer to spend on a middle 6 center. You know who will be a UFA as well in 2026? Kevin Hayes.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: BiggE, freakydallas13, Tripod and 3 others
Magua said:
I mean, that would be a brilliant franchise changing move.

But I've seen this story before: an elite Russian winger hits UFA, but the Flyers prefer to spend on a middle 6 center. You know who will be a UFA as well in 2026? Kevin Hayes.
Click to expand...
Was just looking at the list, they won't be able to help themselves with Anders Lee also being a free agent.
 
  • Haha
  • Like
Reactions: bennysflyers16 and Magua
Magua said:
I mean, that would be a brilliant franchise changing move.

But I've seen this story before: an elite Russian winger hits UFA, but the Flyers prefer to spend on a middle 6 center. You know who will be a UFA as well in 2026? Kevin Hayes.
Click to expand...
What Russian wing? Only one I can think of is Panarin, and he was going to NYC - which is where I'd go with $100M! Get a nice condo for a few million and live the good life. He wasn't coming to Philly.

Anyway, Flyers aren't throwing big money at wings if they have Farabee and Michkov, they'd be hunting for a center.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BernieParent
deadhead said:
What Russian wing? Only one I can think of is Panarin, and he was going to NYC - which is where I'd go with $100M! Get a nice condo for a few million and live the good life. He wasn't coming to Philly.

Anyway, Flyers aren't throwing big money at wings if they have Farabee and Michkov, they'd be hunting for a center.
Click to expand...
We didn't even try. We had the cap space to make a play, and Chuck Fletchered it like the goddamned coward he is.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Striiker
mja said:
We didn't even try. We had the cap space to make a play, and Chuck Fletchered it like the goddamned coward he is.
Click to expand...
Panarin wasn't in play, same way Fox wasn't in play.
In free agency (or in Fox's case, potential free agent) the player decides where he wants to go, not fans.
 
deadhead said:
Panarin wasn't in play, same way Fox wasn't in play.
In free agency (or in Fox's case, potential free agent) the player decides where he wants to go, not fans.
Click to expand...

You offer him the richest contract in the league and dare him to turn it down. If he does, then so be it, but at least you took the shot.

We didn't even try. And it's not because he wasn't available. It's because he wasn't a center.
 
  • Wow
Reactions: Beef Invictus
Panarin didn't make the Rangers a winner, nor did having a #1 and #2 pick.
Fox and a 4th rd pick are the difference for that team.
 
deadhead said:
Panarin didn't make the Rangers a winner, nor did having a #1 and #2 pick.
Fox and a 4th rd pick are the difference for that team.
Click to expand...

Ah ok so it is good that the Flyers don't try to have high picks and high talent. Yes I agree. Building from the 4th line out in the image of the Islanders and style of the Blues will work! I have faith. It's the two lowest probability paths to success combined, but I bet the universe smiles upon that audacity.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BiggE, BernieParent and Tripod
I am wondering if the decision to rebuild and call it that publically was related to knowing the Hart situation was coming down the pipeline? Would they have been buyers at this deadline if Hart was never involved?
 
  • Like
  • Wow
Reactions: BernieParent and Beef Invictus
BillDineen said:
I am wondering if the decision to rebuild and call it that publically was related to knowing the Hart situation was coming down the pipeline? Would they have been buyers at this deadline if Hart was never involved?
Click to expand...
No, this goes back to before Briere was hired and Torts came out and said this team was 4-5 years away (i.e. as long or longer than his contract). When Briere was hired that spring, he made it clear he was on board with Torts in that a rebuild was required, they weren't going to tank, but they were going to focus on adding young assets.

The problem was CF and Scott, the G trade should have been followed by trades of Sanheim and Risto, no TDA deal, etc. But Scott would never sign off on a rebuild and CF knew a rebuild meant he was gone.

Briere traded Provorov and dumped Hayes, TDA, Hodgson and Connauton, let Braun, Lemieux, Willman walk, clearing more contract slots. Only additions were Poehling (24), Hathaway (2yr deal), and Staal (1yr deal).

Added 1st, (2) 2nds, 5th, 6th rd picks, Grans (21), Rizzo (22), Walker (29), Peterson (29).
Walker is a trade asset, Peterson simply a salary dump.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Latest posts

Ad

Upcoming events

Ad

Top Bottom