2023-24 Roster Thread #7: A shave and a haircut, two bits

[LegionOfDoom91]

Is this just a cap-type move? Or does this signify a more significant injury?

Injured reserve just frees up a roster space. Tippett’s cap hit still stays on though.

 

[VladDrag]

Injured reserve just frees up a roster space. Tippett’s cap hit still stays on though.

Thanks. I never cared to look into how roster moves work.

 

[deadhead]

Injured reserve just frees up a roster space. Tippett’s cap hit still stays on though.

No problem. They have so much cap room they never put Ellis on LTIR
Briere accumulating cap room for the TDL, then he'll probably LTIR Ellis for the remainer of the season if he needs his cap space.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

Flyers bad luck…

-Ryan Ellis career ending injury
-Missed out on Kane and got JvR
-Nolan Patrick migranes
-Covid happened and messed up 2020 stretch
-Pronger forced to retire
-Fedotov military service debacle
-Lindblom cancer

What am I missing in the 2000s?

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Get to work, @FLYguy3911 .

Charlie has a face made for the radio.

 

[deadhead]

If Hart is gone, Flyers have a short-term issue.

Peterson is under contract for next season, so if you're rebuilding you can live with that for a season while Kolosov spends the season in the AHL.

The two draft picks are years away, the Russian will probably spend next year in the KHL, but figure at least two seasons there, the CHL goalie has another year in juniors, then to the AHL in 2025-26.

So in the long-run they seem pretty set, in the short run it's a little iffy.
I'm sure they'd love to pry Fedotov away if possible.

 

[BernieParent]

If Hart is gone, Flyers have a short-term issue.

Peterson is under contract for next season, so if you're rebuilding you can live with that for a season while Kolosov spends the season in the AHL.

The two draft picks are years away, the Russian will probably spend next year in the KHL, but figure at least two seasons there, the CHL goalie has another year in juniors, then to the AHL in 2025-26.

So in the long-run they seem pretty set, in the short run it's a little iffy.
I'm sure they'd love to pry Fedotov away if possible.

Fedotov is a lost cause at this point. In the worst-case scenario that Hart is no longer a Flyer after this season, they are left with Ersson, Petersen, and Sandstrom (if re-signed). They would also be looking at the better part of $16.7 million of cap space (as you have pointed out), with RFAs Tippett, Zamula, Brink, and (maybe) Poehling to re-sign. Of this group, Tippett's increase should be the only significant jump. Decisions on Walker and Seeler, but if they start the season with Sanheim, Drysdale, York, Ristolainen, Andrae, Zamula, it wouldn't be the end of the world. So a decent veteran G could be added for $2-3 million if necessary and leave plenty of room for deals with cap dumps or other more interesting trades involving taking on high salary.

 

[BritainStix]

Can really see how the Russians f***ed us with Fedotov now.

 

[Appleyard]

If Hart is gone, Flyers have a short-term issue.

Peterson is under contract for next season, so if you're rebuilding you can live with that for a season while Kolosov spends the season in the AHL.

The two draft picks are years away, the Russian will probably spend next year in the KHL, but figure at least two seasons there, the CHL goalie has another year in juniors, then to the AHL in 2025-26.

So in the long-run they seem pretty set, in the short run it's a little iffy.
I'm sure they'd love to pry Fedotov away if possible.

Th Fedotov boat has sailed.

His current (arguably illegal) KHL contract does not expire until summer 2025.
His Flyers rights expire in summer 2024 and he will be an NHL UFA.

If he wants to come to North America:

A. It would probably only be in summer 2025.
B. He could then choose any team he likes.

 

[Appleyard]

If they want to bolster the goalie pool easily, quickly, with less of a waiting time?

They should probably just draft one of:

Ilya Nabokov (20 years old, 6'0, .926 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)
Dmitri Gamzin (20 years old, 6'2, .949 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)

and sign one of:

Artemi Pleshkov (21 years old, 5'10, .926 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)
Maxim Motorygin (21 years old, 6'0, .919 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)

Pavel Moysevich is very interesting too as a 19 year old... and Belarusian to add to Flyers being THE destination for Belarusians aha... but has contract until 2027.

 

[BritainStix]

I'll take Nabokov purely for his namesake.

 

[Appleyard]

Some other options.

 

[BernieParent]

I'll take Nabokov purely for his namesake.

Don't tend so close to me.

 

[deadhead]

If they want to bolster the goalie pool easily, quickly, with less of a waiting time?

They should probably just draft one of:

Ilya Nabokov (20 years old, 6'0, .926 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)
Dmitri Gamzin (20 years old, 6'2, .949 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)

and sign one of:

Artemi Pleshkov (21 years old, 5'10, .926 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)
Maxim Motorygin (21 years old, 6'0, .919 sv% in KHL, KHL contract expires in 2025)

Pavel Moysevich is very interesting too as a 19 year old... and Belarusian to add to Flyers being THE destination for Belarusians aha... but has contract until 2027.

Contract to 2027 would be a fine use for a 7th rd pick, the rights would slide and you'd have a great value pick who'd be training in a top "minor" league and NHL ready four years after being drafted - which is how long it takes an 18 year to be close to NHL ready.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

That Moysevich guy has only played in 10 KHL games.

That said, Kolosov's .904 is disappointing when you consider there are 13 KHL goalies this season with at least a .925 save % with a minimum of 20 GP.

 

[deadhead]

That Moysevich guy has only played in 10 KHL games.

That said, Kolosov's .904 is disappointing when you consider there are 13 KHL goalies this season with at least a .925 save % with a minimum of 20 GP.

Got to be careful with Sv%, often a factor of the team in front of a goalie.
I look at the backup's numbers as a check, if an experienced backup is playing much worse, it's probably the team.

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Got to be careful with Sv%, often a factor of the team in front of a goalie.
I look at the backup's numbers as a check, if an experienced backup is playing much worse, it's probably the team.

I agree, but man that's quite a disparity, and Kolosov's backup's numbers are virtually identical.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Th Fedotov boat has sailed.

His current (arguably illegal) KHL contract does not expire until summer 2025.
His Flyers rights expire in summer 2024 and he will be an NHL UFA.

If he wants to come to North America:

A. It would probably only be in summer 2025.
B. He could then choose any team he likes.

Surely they can at least try to make the argument for an exemption to this, considering the circumstances?

Some other options.

Will we ever see another 5’10 goalie in the NHL?

 

[Flyerfan4life]

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LOL...

#NEVER rebuild

 

[Appleyard]

Contract to 2027 would be a fine use for a 7th rd pick, the rights would slide and you'd have a great value pick who'd be training in a top "minor" league and NHL ready four years after being drafted - which is how long it takes an 18 year to be close to NHL ready.

He will likely go a lot higher than 7th round though. I guess 4th.

Got to be careful with Sv%, often a factor of the team in front of a goalie.
I look at the backup's numbers as a check, if an experienced backup is playing much worse, it's probably the team.

Naturally I have watched these guys and also know how they are playing relative to the other goalies. But yeh, if you are u-22 putting up ~.920 sv% in a top Euro league without massive holes in game... odds are can play AHL right away.

 

[Appleyard]

Surely they can at least try to make the argument for an exemption to this, considering the circumstances?



Will we ever see another 5’10 goalie in the NHL?

I don't think there is really any rule that would allow them to now.

As for 5'10 goalies... there are a couple right now in the NHL... they are just listed at 5'11 and 6'0 aha.

One such goalie has been top 10 in Vezina votes each of the last 3 seasons...

Halak and Khudobin were both good for a long time too.

I think if someone is good enough they will make it.

But in North America especially undersized guys just dont play goalie anymore even at youth level, and I think that influences the amount who are smaller who make it too. In Europe there is a lot less bias against smaller goalies at a youth level. As a result there are far more good small goalies who are Euros.

 

[BritainStix]

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LOL...

#NEVER rebuild

Yeah, what I want my GM to do, is definitely tell all of our competitors that we are definitely trading two players, and there is 0 interest in re-signing them. Just to make sure there is absolutely no leverage in a trade negotiation.

Fml. People in this place.

 

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[FLYguy3911]

Oh boy.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

If they do this, they better tie Frost to him. The two have chemistry. But either way, I really hope it's not a lot. Long, fine, but expensive, f*** that.