Speculation: 2023-24-25 Sharks Roster Discussion

[Bizz]

Anyone interested in claiming Yamamoto? Could help with our 5v5 scoring on the 3rd or 4th line

I'd rather see them call up Haltunnen, Bystedt, or Graf.

 

[Erep]

I'd rather see them call up Haltunnen, Bystedt, or Graf.

Haltunnen is still a good ways off, but you can add Cardwell to that list.

 

[Cas]

Anyone interested in claiming Yamamoto? Could help with our 5v5 scoring on the 3rd or 4th line

Just call up a prospect with a future.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Graf and Cagnoni are having monster starts.

In recent memory, Couture, Pavelski, Tierney, Demers, Braun, and Labanc forced themselves into some very good teams by dominating the AHL. You'd think Graf and Cagnoni should be able to do it on some extremely not-good teams.

To be fair, those players might have leap-frogged others because of their low cap hit. Plus, when you're contending development is an afterthought. That's not the case with this team...

Edit: Although, Gushchin had a great season and played what, 4 games?

 

[TheBeard]

Haltunnen is still a good ways off, but you can add Cardwell to that list.

Yep. Cardwell or Graf are the only forwards really worthy of a call-up at this point.

 

[Bizz]

Haltunnen is still a good ways off, but you can add Cardwell to that list.

Wouldn't be for very long, just give him two or three games and see what he does.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yep. Cardwell or Graf are the only forwards really worthy of a call-up at this point.

I'd throw Bystedt into that group as well. The nights that they want to give Smith a development day should be a night that we see Bystedt get some action. Dellandrea as a 3C is a horrendous option to just be okay with, imo.

 

[Saskatoon]

Wouldn't be for very long, just give him two or three games and see what he does.

Since his first AHL game he has been pretty bad

 

[Hodge]

Gushchin has 1 5v5 point through 12 career NHL games. He won the preseason Art Ross though, which is a very real and significant accomplishment, so he's better than Luke Kunin and should be playing over Will Smith.

 

[Crewouse]

Gushchin has 1 5v5 point through 12 career NHL games. He won the preseason Art Ross though, which is a very real and significant accomplishment, so he's better than Luke Kunin and should be playing over Will Smith.

Bad Hodge 2.0, bad

 

[spintops]

Goodrow has 0 5v5 points in 9 games for us while being the fourth highest paid forward on the team, but his leadership has propelled us to 0 wins!


**What it is like to post as Hodge

 

[Gecklund]

Sharks got Granlund as a cap dump. If MG can identify another Granlund type vet in a dump, he can move Granlund for a 1st (maybe). Then find a way to add a vet or two in a similar situation. I know Granlund is a best case for re-finding his game. If Granlund stays for 2/3 more years I wouldn't be mad either. Just can't see him wanting to play out his last few years in SJ

Granlund was kind of a weird situation. He’s always been very very skilled and always produced well but was moved to PIT and just flopped due to off ice stuff. Combine his poor season with a brand new ambitious GM and a superstar dman being available for cheap. All around weird situation.

Anyone interested in claiming Yamamoto? Could help with our 5v5 scoring on the 3rd or 4th line

Absolutely not. Not because of his play in any way but because one of my buddies is a big fan of him and he’s very loud and I don’t trust his player judgement.

 

[Jargon]

I’d be curious to try putting the Lund line back together and having a Goodrow - Smith - Toffoli 2nd line. Wennberg isn’t looking too hot, and I want to see how Smith looks with Toffoli.

 

[coooldude]

I’d be curious to try putting the Lund line back together and having a Goodrow - Smith - Toffoli 2nd line. Wennberg isn’t looking too hot, and I want to see how Smith looks with Toffoli.

Good idea, maybe they'll try it. Leaving Kunin-Wennberg-Dell or other on the third checking line.

 

[Jargon]

Good idea, maybe they'll try it. Leaving Kunin-Wennberg-Dell or other on the third checking line.

Yeah, possibly put Gushchin on the 3rd but I’m like 98% sure he’s sitting next game for the sin of being just as bad as everyone else.

 

[OrrNumber4]

Going back to the defense, it seems like Grier's expectations haven't panned out:

1) Thrun hasn't taken the next step at all. I imagine that Grier was banking on this happening, shades of DW and Gambrell in 2020.
2) Benning has not returned to form. He was a decent #4 defenseman who could move the puck, but it appears that his injury has caused him to regress
3) I think Grier had expectations of Ceci stepping into a middle-pairing role, but he's what he always is; a great third-pairing guy
4) Ferraro and Rutta have regressed. Rutta looked like an NHLer last year. Ferraro's never been a dynamo offensively, but he's even less mobile and less offensively aware this season.
5) Mukhamadullin is injured

Maybe I'm not being fair to Ferraro and discounting how bad a replacement would be, but Grier needs to trade him.

 

[Hinterland]

Going back to the defense, it seems like Grier's expectations haven't panned out:

1) Thrun hasn't taken the next step at all. I imagine that Grier was banking on this happening, shades of DW and Gambrell in 2020.
2) Benning has not returned to form. He was a decent #4 defenseman who could move the puck, but it appears that his injury has caused him to regress
3) I think Grier had expectations of Ceci stepping into a middle-pairing role, but he's what he always is; a great third-pairing guy
4) Ferraro and Rutta have regressed. Rutta looked like an NHLer last year. Ferraro's never been a dynamo offensively, but he's even less mobile and less offensively aware this season.
5) Mukhamadullin is injured

Maybe I'm not being fair to Ferraro and discounting how bad a replacement would be, but Grier needs to trade him.

I agree. Which is why I mentioned Mukhamadullin as the player I'm most interested in earlier in this thread. I'm curious what the plan is for him now. I guess the initial plan was for him to play a full NHL season but I wonder if the injury and the overall disappointing start have changed anything.

 

[mogambomoroo]

Signing FA John Klingberg wouldn't be the worst idea? RD who can move the puck and can play in our PP1 with low risk. Even if he isn't good defensively, you can maybe get some more offence. He is injury prone, but that's not going trip us over with how things are going right now.

Walman - Klingberg
Ferraro - Ceci
Thrun - Thompson

Klingberg PP1
Walman PP2

 

[Anomie2029]

Warsofsky has seriously been watching the Sharks games and his solution is "put Benning back in over Thompson". I was giving Warsofsky a chance, but he's just as bad as Quinn.

 

[Friday]

It's been one week since the MG "we will check back in 2 weeks" thing, is Celebrini skating? Or is he still on ice

*NVM just saw that he is skating

 

[Sharkz4Fun]

Signing FA John Klingberg wouldn't be the worst idea? RD who can move the puck and can play in our PP1 with low risk. Even if he isn't good defensively, you can maybe get some more offence. He is injury prone, but that's not going trip us over with how things are going right now.

Walman - Klingberg
Ferraro - Ceci
Thrun - Thompson

Klingberg PP1
Walman PP2

Klingberg is probably worse than Benning.

 

[hohosaregood]

all the offseason/early season injuries that happen in this club just seem like mysterious forever injuries. Benning, Couture, Nuttivaara, Laroque, Carlsson, Vlasic, Celebrini, etc, etc

 

[OrrNumber4]

all the offseason/early season injuries that happen in this club just seem like mysterious forever injuries. Benning, Couture, Nuttivaara, Laroque, Carlsson, Vlasic, Celebrini, etc, etc

It's weird, isn't it? Lot of lower-body (hip/groin) injuries too...

 

[Tw1ster]

Warsofsky has seriously been watching the Sharks games and his solution is "put Benning back in over Thompson". I was giving Warsofsky a chance, but he's just as bad as Quinn.

Quite the head scratcher to be sure

 

[Shark Finn]

Bad Hodge 2.0, bad

My favorite comment and I don't even know what they said