GDT: 2022 NHL Draft (And Trade Rumors) - Montreal - July 7 - July 8

[SnS]

I thought you guys a few weeks ago wanted to make pick and not do anything drastic

I thought you guys were all pissed off at the notion Flyers were going to try and go for it with this GM/Coach and roster?

I don’t speak for everyone but I don’t want to pick at 5. I want it traded, most don’t share the same opinion as me, I’m sure.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I don’t speak for everyone but I don’t want to pick at 5. I want it traded, most don’t share the same opinion as me, I’m sure.

I'm fine with trading back if Cooley isn't there, but I don't want it traded for the sake of trading it lol

 

[GKJ]

Well if Dach is getting moved you can add another name to the list of disappointing picks around #5 made in the last 10 years.

what if he's moved here?

 

[SnS]

I'm fine with trading back if Cooley isn't there, but I don't want it traded for the sake of trading it lol

We as fans need to face it, there’s no point to hope for the smart route (rebuild).

So if they’re going to try and force it, they should just trade the pick and make the team watchable.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

what if he's moved here?

Then we have another forward who isn't good that was drafted way to high lol like Tippett

 

[sa cyred]

See how it goes but "Flyers Twitter Reporters" are reporting David Jiricek is leading the way @ #5 for Flyers.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

We as fans need to face it, there’s no point to hope for the smart route (rebuild).

So if they’re going to try and force it, they should just trade the pick and make the team watchable.

Well I mean yes, but chuckles making trades has zero chance of making this team watchable

See how it goes but "Flyers Twitter Reporters" are reporting David Jiricek is leading the way @ #5 for Flyers.

I don't think he makes it past Seattle

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

See how it goes but "Flyers Twitter Reporters" are reporting David Jiricek is leading the way @ #5 for Flyers.

You mean the tweet that I put in the Septic tank thread that said that they're deciding between Jiricek and Nemec while leaning towards Jiricek, however, they also like Gauthier and things can change and if Cooley is there they'll take him.

Nothing like naming four of the top sixish players in the draft and acting like you have an inside source.

 

[SnS]

Well I mean yes, but chuckles making trades has zero chance of making this team watchable


I don't think he makes it past Seattle

Depends if you want to watch a car crash.

 

[Pet Charles]

I’m really hoping they put the monkeys in charge tonight. Process: rank the players from highest ceiling on down. When their pick comes up, select the highest ranked player on the list. Take a few pictures. Go home.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I refuse to watch the two Defensemen before they pick just in case I actually like one of them. You can't be disappointed if you're clueless.

I may or may not add more to this later. I’m about to leave the shore.

Look at this guy telling us when he leaves, not when he gets down @Starat327.

 

[wankstifier]

They’re going to trade for Tyler Myers

 

[Kelmitchell2]

Depends if you want to watch a car crash.

Depends who's in the car lol

They’re going to trade for Tyler Myers

You shut your whore mouth sir lol

 

[Magua]

The more I think about it, I really want Cutter Gauthier. He embodies everything about this franchise: low ceilings and mediocrity. I want the Flyers to squawk about needing high ceiling players; to revisionist history their way to wanting Makar; only to draft a 3rd liner, without any discernible elite skills, with the 5th overall pick under Draft Guru, Chuck Fletcher. It's perfect really: we know Fletcher picks for fit with high selections. We know he has a fetish for shooters. We know he doesn't believe in transition ability as an important skill. Picks rarely get as on the money as this one. 5th overall with only 6 picks total, as they view this pick as a cornerstone to a retool? Yes, please.

Almost every draft HockeyGuys™ vaporize their jorts to a center, usually with size, at the top of a class, pushing him up and up despite all logic and ignoring all flaws. As we can see, not even just centers......assumed centers!

Wanted Byram and we needed Keith heir

It was dumb selection at time and looks far worse

Dach is not a terrible hockey player (He is reasonably good defensively) but he isn't good C and may never work out as a C and a 3rd line winger with limited offensive game is not what a team should walk away with from 3rd overall

Speaking of which......

I had Dach 17th and Zegras 3rd, and I actually doubted myself for a bit. I thought maybe I just wasn't seeing something with Dach.

 

[Curufinwe]

There doesn't seem to be any accounts that Hurricanes players had issues with him off the ice, what was revealed about him in this past year is how badly he unraveled emotionally in the playoffs, the Rangers and Bruins (and their fans) obviously got to him. That ain't gonna fly here, we're way more willing to turn on our own players vocally. And I'm not someone who thinks Torts is like some hardline Keenan type, but I also know he isn't gonna put up with poor defensive players.

So Carolina doesn't want him back?

 

[trostol]

I'll be at work..so not sure I can get more disappointed this day no matter what they do

 

[Magua]

I refuse to watch the two Defensemen before they pick just in case I actually like one of them. You can't be disappointed if you're clueless.

I think you'll "like" both of them for very different reasons? While still adamantly believing trading down was better, with the opportunity cost too high for each of them. I have a hunch who you'd like more, but then you'd still see how far away that player is from being a blue chip prospect.

DeAngelo legitimately is an all offense guy. He’s good at that but he is actively bad defensively. It’s not just a stereotype, the numbers support it too. That’s just funny given the Flyers current defense core assuming Ellis can’t go 100% or at all. I just have no faith in the Flyers being able to leverage his strengths & weaknesses for the better end sum result.

Example #8944 of the Fletcher-led Flyers having absolutely zero plan or consistency. They're just all over the map with what they say they value, or what they show they value, or what they say and show they value while completely whiffing on the value.

Not that DeAngelo shouldn't lead a PP1, but it would be hilarious if Sanheim didn't get any PP time again in his contract year.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

So Carolina doesn't want him back?

Can't afford him since they're targeting giroux

 

[BiggE]

There doesn't seem to be any accounts that Hurricanes players had issues with him off the ice, what was revealed about him in this past year is how badly he unraveled emotionally in the playoffs, the Rangers and Bruins (and their fans) obviously got to him. That ain't gonna fly here, we're way more willing to turn on our own players vocally. And I'm not someone who thinks Torts is like some hardline Keenan type, but I also know he isn't gonna put up with poor defensive players.

He won’t have to worry about playoff pressure here.

 

[Kelmitchell2]

I'll be at work..so not sure I can get more disappointed this day no matter what they do

I work from home so I'll have it up on my roku TV lol just paid for a month of espn+ just for the draft

 

[GKJ]

So Carolina doesn't want him back?

My sense isn't that they wouldn't take him back, it's that he's priced out. He only made like $1.1M this year.

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Will any prospects reach their potential ceiling in Philly? Not a very good pattern of development here. For me, their development failure is why I wouldn't hate them trading the pick for a young established player.

Eh, while their player development isn't blowing anyone out of the waters, it looks more like bad drafting than player development to me. Many of their draft choices struggle in juniors (or NCAA or overseas) after being drafted. It isn't like they are all studs then get to the Flyers or AHL and suck. You have a bunch of homegrown guys on the roster that developed as planned, some better than others but that's going to happen everywhere. You have later round players in the NHL that they drafted (or will beNHL players this coming season). Then you have the injury problem guys, the guys most thought were bad picks to begin with, etc.

I am also not opposed to trading the pick for an established player depending on who and what else is involved. I am not championing Gauthier at 5 (or if they trade back), but I also won't be disappointed if they get him one way or another. Definitely has one of the cooler names in the draft. They call him "The Knife."

 

[GKJ]

He won’t have to worry about playoff pressure here.

Yeah but then if we're bad he's more libel to piss and moan, which probably had something to do with what happened with the Rangers

Oh well, if they sign him, they're making their bed and will have to lay in it. I could use another reason to not like this team and bitch and moan upon their sales dept begging me to come back.

 

[Laveuglette]

Havent been keeping up in this thread much but, do we like Jiricek or naw

I do. Main issue is that he had a knee injury, other than he's a potential #1D. Very smart on the ice, both defensively and offensively. Very good offensively, actually. He's big and can play physically too. I would be happy with him at #5, and he's likely gonna be available.

 

[GKJ]

I'm all about taking either defenseman. That would be my preference to the forwards. I'm not against Cooley or Gauthier (although signnificantly more to Cooley, I wanted to be top 6 to take one of the original 6 guys), but I would rather the defensemen and keep trying to turn that over.