2022/23 Roster Thread XX: Heading into the Homestretch

[Rebels57]

This is the only part I care about

All decisions related to hockey — including this hire — will be made by the folks that I mentioned to you. All decisions going forward related to hockey will be made by those three individuals: the new president, the new GM, and the coach. The rest of us — certainly me and Valerie for business perspective, will weigh in as needed. And when asked, those folks who are the foundational titans (referring to the Senior Advisors) of this great franchise will be ready and willing to give their advice if asked, when asked, and only if and when asked.

 

[chadateit]

This is the only part I care about

Yes. At least he made it clear that the BSB undead management meddlers will not be involved in decisions unless they are told to be. And they will have no input in the hiring process of GM and President. Those parts were positive. The rest, much less inspiring.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Beef Invictus]

I was told Tortorella would fix him.

Maybe there's more to defense than grinding and blocking shots and a guy with no understanding of offense isn't going to be good at defending against it.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

This is the only part I care about

i dont believe him... the fact he calls them pillars and says they still have a voice means nothing is really changing..

all we did was change a few suits. otherwise its the same ol Flyers....

 

[FlyerNutter]

The real thing that matters to me anyway is if they are willing to commit to the suck for another 3-4 years.

Not trying to artificially speed this up with BS lateral trades or FA signings. There is nothing here that is relevant, no matter how much the Flyer media will try to spin it. Secondary pieces mean jack shit, without an elite core.

It’s been the Flyers problem for a very long time, an over reliance on secondary depth, and not doing what’s needed to build a true talented foundation.

They utterly failed this season by not being in the top 4 when it was possible. TK, Sanheim, Laughton, and Prov all on the team still. We will see if next season they actually commit to a rebuild without just saying it.

Perpetually picking 7th is a waste of time, and for all the talk of “growth this season”, it too is a waste of time. Who gives a f*** about Frost or Tippet growing. The high end pick was more valuable than some secondary guy slightly improving their game.

Refusing to fire sale, or tank because of Tippet, Frost, York, and Cates. Please.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

The real thing that matters to me anyway is if they are willing to commit to the suck for another 3-4 years.

Not trying to artificially speed this up with BS lateral trades or FA signings. There is nothing here that is relevant, no matter how much the Flyer media will try to spin it. Secondary pieces mean jack shit, without an elite core.

It’s been the Flyers problem for a very long time, an over reliance on secondary depth, and not doing what’s needed to build a true talented foundation.

They utterly failed this season by not being in the top 4 when it was possible. TK, Sanheim, Laughton, and Prov all on the team still. We will see if next season they actually commit to a rebuild without just saying it.

Perpetually picking 7th is a waste of time, and for all the talk of “growth this season”, it too is a waste of time. Who gives a f*** about Frost or Tippet growing. The high end pick was more valuable than some secondary guy slightly improving their game.

ive got a spoiler for you..

the fact Torts is in on the roster building going forward is a massive RED flag..

expect a team with nothing but veteran grinders and ALL youth banished to AHL for seasoning till they are at least 34.

 

[FlyerNutter]

ive got a spoiler for you..

the fact Torts is in on the roster building going forward is a massive RED flag..

expect a team with nothing but veteran grinders and ALL youth banished to AHL for seasoning till they are at least 34.

I think they will play some kids. I do think they will also sign some veterans for the bottom of the lineup. I actually don’t have a problem with that.

I will have a problem if starting next season we see TK, Sanheim, and Laughton all on the team. Add Hart to that list. Moving Provorov is not nearly enough to ensure a further fall in the standings.

They speak of rebuilding but I strongly doubt they have the balls to do what’s needed to actually harvest that high end talent.

There is no 1C. No 1 or 2D. Maybe a first line winger in TK that I’d be weary of singing long term as there is a real risk of more of a Gallagher trajectory than say Arvidsson.

There is nothing here of note, no matter how much they try to get people excited over Cates.

 

[Redpath]

Developing a "search committee" all just to coincidentally land on the son of the franchise's legendary coach would be disheartening.

 

[renberg]

the fact Torts is in on the roster building going forward is a massive RED flag.

I don’t think that Reinbacher gets past the Flyers at seven. He’ll become Torts new Werenski. That’s not necessarily a bad thing. The defense is almost as bad as the offense. Torts probably will start his rebuild on the back end. Braun retires this summer; Provorov gone this summer; TDA by the deadline next season.

 

[Magua]

The idea of there being a “triumvirate” between Briere, Tortorella, and the future President of Hockey Operations — that will be chosen with the help of the same firm that told them Tortorella is The Guy, along with the Chiarelli of NBA GMs in Billy King — is nightmare fuel.

O’Connor seemed to believe the President will have serious personnel input. The Flyers love them some collaboration. And we know Tortorella has somehow positioned himself as AGM, which is certainly why he has championed Briere. There’s almost no chance that this hire isn’t a total backwards thinking dud.

 

[Curufinwe]

Proof, pudding, etc.

 

[FlyerNutter]

I'm going to try to not rail against Comcast today, but it's so clear what a trash ownership group this team has. The head of the snake continues to show it doesn't have a clue.

The incestous relationships that have lead this team to have such a narrow POV when filling crucial FO roles is still on display. The Flyer family above all.

 

[Fight4yourRight]

Triumvirate of pure shit.

 

[Rebels57]

The idea of there being a “triumvirate” between Briere, Tortorella, and the future President of Hockey Operations — that will be chosen with the help of the same firm that told them Tortorella is The Guy, along with the Chiarelli of NBA GMs in Billy King — is nightmare fuel.

O’Connor seemed to believe the President will have serious personnel input. The Flyers love them some collaboration. And we know Tortorella has somehow positioned himself as AGM, which is certainly why he has championed Briere. There’s almost no chance that this hire isn’t a total backwards thinking dud.

Yep. It was fail spectacularly. Just like the Fletcher era. We are essentially f***ed until Comcast sells because this Hilferty character is a Scott clone based on everything he's said. The only difference I see is that he won't lean on the Senior Advisors. That's really not enough to turn this thing around unless they somehow magically get the President hire right, and I can't see that happening either. So, the misery continues.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

Is it? Then again Ghost was often scratched and he is a better player on both sides of the puck

 

[freakydallas13]

Yeah but this rebuilding team had no choice but to give up 3 picks for results this poor that every mouth breathing fan of this franchise saw coming a mile away.

Or something.

 

[freakydallas13]

The idea of there being a “triumvirate” between Briere, Tortorella, and the future President of Hockey Operations — that will be chosen with the help of the same firm that told them Tortorella is The Guy, along with the Chiarelli of NBA GMs in Billy King — is nightmare fuel.

O’Connor seemed to believe the President will have serious personnel input. The Flyers love them some collaboration. And we know Tortorella has somehow positioned himself as AGM, which is certainly why he has championed Briere. There’s almost no chance that this hire isn’t a total backwards thinking dud.

I'm impressed they aren't even going to attempt to look for a different GM.

"Eh, Briere was already here. f*** it, who needs to even try looking for someone else"

Pathetic franchise.

Yep. It was fail spectacularly. Just like the Fletcher era. We are essentially f***ed until Comcast sells because this Hilferty character is a Scott clone based on everything he's said. The only difference I see is that he won't lean on the Senior Advisors. That's really not enough to turn this thing around unless they somehow magically get the President hire right, and I can't see that happening either. So, the misery continues.

He won't lean on the senior advisers, but everyone the advisers wanted to be in power is already in power so they end up getting what they want anyways.

Same as it ever was.

 

[Redpath]

New STG episode:

ASF is "100% confident" Hayes is going to Columbus this summer. We're probably going to move DeAngelo. "Could conceivably move Carter Hart." Likely one of Sanheim or Provorov gone this summer. TK could be traded if we're blown away.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I have no idea how you bring back Provorov next year.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

New STG episode:

ASF is "100% confident" Hayes is going to Columbus this summer. We're probably going to move DeAngelo. "Could conceivably move Carter Hart." Likely one of Sanheim or Provorov gone this summer. TK could be traded if we're blown away.

I think TDA is pretty untradeable at this point. Seriously, if we get more than a 5th rounder, we would be f***ing lucky. The dude is a trainwreck.

And also, with Columbus, don't they have a ton of kids who play center? I could see Provy being gone and if Hart is moved, it could be for a pretty big return.

 

[Rebels57]

I have no idea how you bring back Provorov next year.

Yeah I think he's gone no matter what and it will be a mutual thing.

 

[BackToTheBrierePatch]

I have no idea how you bring back Provorov next year.

Yup and his play has fallen off so much the return probably won’t be good. He was looking like he wanted out last season as well. No way he should be back next season

 

[Magua]

I think I’d cry laughing if they chose not to move Sanheim for a 1st this season, re-signed him, then dumped his contract for nothing (to gift another team a top 3 defender), just to keep an inferior cancerous defenseman who could still be traded for a 1st. But you need minutes munchers in this league.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I think I’d cry laughing if they chose not to move Sanheim for a 1st this season, re-signed him, then dumped his contract for nothing (to gift another team a top 3 defender), just to keep an inferior cancerous defenseman who could still be traded for a 1st. But you need minutes munchers in this league.

I think it was Charlie awhile back saying Provorov needs to go to a place that has an established #1 not just for on ice reasons but also to show him a clear hierarchy in hopes it will humble him.