2022/23 Roster Thread XV: Where Optional Skates are Mandatory
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blackjackmulligan
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He was one of the better players that game and the problem was a coach playing them in the most cowardly shell the NHL has ever seen.
Fail.
blackjackmulligan
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Yes a def fail. No doubt. You keep believing Clode never had games where he packed it in.
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Well you haven't provided one. Especially considering he set up one of two goals.
It's almost like you lazily chose a random game and hoped for the best
blackjackmulligan
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Pick any of those Ranger drubbings the last few years.
Any opinion on why Giroux didn't want to sign with a top team to pursue a cup?
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Family. He told us. It's not a mystery or matter for opinion.
Ottawa is an up and coming team, not exactly Ottawa of years past or Phoenix. He's helping build a team to be competitive, which is much harder work. Not exactly a lazy quitter move.
Any opinion on why he insisted on going to the best team last season to go for a Cup if he gave up?
Since you clearly subscribe to the foolish "Giroux as a captain was a problem" narrative, why are things even worse without him?
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Uhh.... probably because he wants to close to his family? He has two young kids and winning isn't everything if you're not happy where you are.
That must be so hard to comprehend huh?
mja
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For this poster, yes. He's clearly established that he doesn't view that as a valid reason, even though it would be a top consideration for any actual human being.
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Athletes are made for our enjoyment and aren't real people. They must care as much about winning a championship in every second of their life as the fans do or they're bums.
Thems the rules.
Thems the rules.
blackjackmulligan
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He wasn't a problem also wasn't part of the solution. The change was long overdue. Mind boggling he didn't want out long before he was actually moved. Though i think he was very comfortable on Philly with zero pressure to win or what not. He had it easy
He wanted to go to a less pressure to win situation imo. A place he can go about his business, much like Philly. Do you think Florida was the best team? Or just using their record ? Winning clearly isn't a priority for him. Though you will disagree when it is clear as day.
The family reason got it. Cant be no other reason I suppose. Nah,
Hollywood Cannon
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Hey @deadhead I think I found one of those internet people that you were talking about with not liking Giroux.
Curufinwe
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The really stupid thing about this ongoing Ghost conversation is that he was struggling for a couple of years because of various injuries, but he didn't bounce back in Arizona. He bounced back in 2021 in Philly despite a prideful wanker of a coach often benching him for inferior players, and then AFTER that, Fletcher paid a 2nd to get rid of him.
20 points (11 ES, 9PP) in 41 games averaging 19:56, and only -2 on a team with the worst goaltending since the 2005 lockout.
Compare that to DeAngelo's first 27 games as Flyer playing with one of the best starting goalies in the league: 14 points (6 ES, 8PP) in 27 games averaging 24:19, and -18, worst on the team.
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A brick isn't as dense as you is it?
Philly is a place you go to to a less pressure to win situation? What are you talking about. There's more teams in the league that has less pressure to win than Philly. Ed Snider was alive when Giroux was here.
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By your reasoning every player should be forcing their way out right now.
Nothing you're saying is reasonable and it's all built on tinfoil hat level reasoning.
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If they only get a 2nd, that still means the Flyers gave up two 2nds to move him. And their record since moving him is 29th best in the NHL, so whatever moves they made with the extra cap space failed hard.
The Flyers also have the worst Net PP% in the league since moving Ghost + Voracek.
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JojoTheWhale
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Oh dear. He really is a minimum buy-in guy. He just buys Defensemen instead of chips.
blackjackmulligan
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Ed Snider is dead. The franchise is dead. There is no pressure to win and it has been that way for a while. You disagree. No biggie.
blackjackmulligan
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They will get something so it is a net positive for Arizona. It was a no lose deal for them.If they only get a 2nd, that still means the Flyers gave up two 2nds to move him. And their record since moving him is 29th best in the NHL, so whatever moves they made with the extra cap space failed hard.
The Flyers also have the worst Net PP% in the league since moving Ghost + Voracek.
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Flyers PP sucked with both here as well. Ghost didn't produce his last couple years in Philly. For a variety of reasons. It was a bad deal as should have just rode his contract out knowing what we know now.
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Is this good? Do we want this? Or is he too cute offensively and needs to learn to grind.
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He had 20 points in his final 41 games, so he actually did produce right before they got rid of him.
The Flyers Net PP in the last two seasons (125 games) with Ghost and Voracek on the team was ranked 17th= at 17.1%. Since they left it's ranked 32nd at 9.2% over 114 games.
I'm not curious about very much concerning hockey anymore, but I am really curious whether or not Ghost knows that there are people here (in the Flyers fanbase) who both understand hockey and appreciate him as a player. There is just so much bullshit about him from the usual suspects on social media that I wouldn't be surprised if he thinks we all think that he is soft and useless.
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This club being a loser franchise has zero to do with Giroux and his level of effort.
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