Speculation: 2021-22 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread Part VI

[Schmooley]

Let’s keep this logic because it’s really good..
Now we have Roy, Walker and Durzi.. what can we get for them?? Maybe a tons of assets or maybe one outstanding, young forward?

Regardless of how the Kings are atm, the future is super bright and the more the kids are able to establish themselves, the more tradeable assets we have.. such as the example above.

Yea they have a lot of assets to move especially when you look at forwards. If you wanna think of them in pairs for the next couple years and fill in the blanks…
xx-Kopitar-Arvidsson
Kempe-Byfield-xx (Kempe signed at 5m per?)
Iafallo-Danault-xx
Lemieux-Helenius-xx
So you have a lot of forward assets on top of those dmen also to fill in your blanks internally or land a guy they really would like.

 

[kings11]

Not sure if you guys have seen the Chychryn trade thread but some idiot Yote fan had the audacity to even suggest that Chychryn at 23 is equal to a 23 YO Doughty! Man, in what Fricken world is that even a possibility?

 

[Steve Zissou]

Not sure if you guys have seen the Chychryn trade thread but some idiot Yote fan had the audacity to even suggest that Chychryn at 23 is equal to a 23 YO Doughty! Man, in what Fricken world is that even a possibility?

Dustin Brown drinks the tears from the forgotten Coyote fans, wherever they may be

RIP Rozsival's Knee, May 23rd, 2012

 

[ru4reals]

Not sure if you guys have seen the Chychryn trade thread but some idiot Yote fan had the audacity to even suggest that Chychryn at 23 is equal to a 23 YO Doughty! Man, in what Fricken world is that even a possibility?

Chychryn's a nice player but saying he's equal to a prime Doughty is pretty funny. He may be a better goal scorer but Prime Doughty is pretty dayum good I have to say.

 

[kings11]

Chychryn's a nice player but saying he's equal to a prime Doughty is pretty funny. He may be a better goal scorer but Prime Doughty is pretty dayum good I have to say.

Well he did say Doughty was a good Dman and definitely top 20 … Yote fans I tell ya

 

[No Name The Nameless]

Vilardi, TBjorn and 2 first rounders. Who says no?

 

[HookKing]

I don't think there's any way the Coyotes accept a trade for Chychrun without Byfield or Clarke going the other way, which is why I don't think it'll happen.

That's silly. How many other teams have the equivalent of either one to trade?

 

[Sol]

Add a 1st and I think it gets done...except that Blake isn't the guy to do it.

I'd do that trade. Chychryn for Clarke, Vilardi, and 1st. Looking at the Kings prospects and drafts, it's only logical to assume Clarke isn't going to be that good.

Let's trade him for someone who is

 

[Cook24]

Someone mentioned the ask for Chychrun is two 1st rounders so why are we putting Clarke and others into the proposals. Just send the 1sts over…

 

[johnjm22]

You’re getting 3.5 years of Chychrun before he’s a UFA.

He’s had one great season. One.

 

[Trash Panda]

Chycrun is the move you make after being bounced in the 1/2nd rounds, and he is the luxury piece that can push a team over the top.

It absolutely is not the move to make for a roster that has shown zero identity, and has transferred almost no responsibility for a winning culture to the youth.

No big acquisition is worth the assets until you start to see what ya have here with the old guard in a diminished role.

 

[tny760]

Chycrun is the move you make after being bounced in the 1/2nd rounds, and he is the luxury piece that can push a team over the top.

It absolutely is not the move to make for a roster that has shown zero identity, and has transferred almost no responsibility for a winning culture to the youth.

No big acquisition is worth the assets until you start to see what ya have here with the old guard in a diminished role.

yep, as much as i like the kid it would be a total waste. it's someone else's leafs jake muzzin(ish) trade

no sense taking him from a dead end to another dead end if they decide to blow this up next season

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't think there's any way the Coyotes accept a trade for Chychrun without Byfield or Clarke going the other way, which is why I don't think it'll happen.

That's silly. How many other teams have the equivalent of either one to trade?

Yep, I was going to say they'll have to accept that, because no other team even has that to offer.

Turcotte/Vilardi, Bjornfot/Anderson, two firsts is the absolute limit imo and I'd lottery protect this years. Might not be enough, but true competitors will WANT to offer more and can't, and true rebuilds have more to offer but shouldn't. Will be an interesting game of chicken.

 

[cyclones22]

If the price is right, sure. But I'm always wary about valuing defensemen whose primary skill is goal scoring. It's rarely sustainable over careers.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

If the price is right, sure. But I'm always wary about valuing defensemen whose primary skill is goal scoring. It's rarely sustainable over careers.

I don't know that I'd value that as his primary skill, though Im sure it's the focus of some people's valuations.

I do think anywhere else he goes those goal totals come way down--he's a lot more of a Drew Doughty type than a Karlsson type.

 

[cyclones22]

I don't know that I'd value that as his primary skill, though Im sure it's the focus of some people's valuations.

I do think anywhere else he goes those goal totals come way down--he's a lot more of a Drew Doughty type than a Karlsson type.

I agree that he is more Doughty than Karlsson. But EK racked up a ton of assists as well as goals. It just goes to show you how there's no comparison between young Drew Doughty and young Jakob Chychrun. Not even close. I understand he's not surrounded by a lot of scorers. But he doesn't get many assists. His career-high is only two more than Drew's rookie season. And Drew has played on teams routinely in the bottom 10 offenses in the league.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I agree that he is more Doughty than Karlsson. But EK racked up a ton of assists as well as goals. It just goes to show you how there's no comparison between young Drew Doughty and young Jakob Chychrun. Not even close. I understand he's not surrounded by a lot of scorers. But he doesn't get many assists. His career-high is only two more than Drew's rookie season. And Drew has played on teams routinely in the bottom 10 offenses in the league.

Oh believe me not saying at all there is a comparison between him and young DD haha. 23 year old Doughty was already a Norris finalist and dancing on the Coyotes' graves.

But there would likely not be a better all around pairing in the league for the next 3 years than Doughty-Chychrun, and after that you could transition to Chychrun-Clarke or Spence/Grans/Faber.

 

[apocalypse]

Oh believe me not saying at all there is a comparison between him and young DD haha. 23 year old Doughty was already a Norris finalist and dancing on the Coyotes' graves.

But there would likely not be a better all around pairing in the league for the next 3 years than Doughty-Chychrun, and after that you could transition to Chychrun-Clarke or Spence/Grans/Faber.

It'd be nice to have Chychrun, but LA just gives up too much to get him. LA is gonna need all the offense they can get in their top 6 and I would argue that the Kings need another middle 6 agitator/enforcer before they need Chychrun. LA can't afford to have Byfield or Turcotte or Vilardi bust.
Our defense isn't bad either. Durzi has really come through and been a boon to our blue line. Doughty is playing well. Everyone's playing well, it's just that we have a lack of size on our blue line. I would love Chiarot even before Chrchrun, but that's not gonna happen because MON is asking for a similar package. I think you just wait it out and see what pieces fall into place. If we really need another offensive dman, then we make that trade.

 

[LAKings88]

I think Faber and Clarke are both gunna be real good players. Right side should be in good shape.

Sergachev is stil my pipe dream but Chychrun is a guy they probably go hard after if there is any truth to it.

 

[Steve Zissou]

This guy gets it.

 

[ScoreZeGoals]

I really like Chychrun, and I would give up valuable assets to acquire Chychrun, but holy crap is he being overrated on this site. Outside of last year with it's wonky only playing against a handful of teams (and the west was a bad division last year), Chychrun hasn't been anywhere close to elite. Outlier production in a strange year/circumstances raises an eyebrow to me. And you got people on the main board comparing him to prime Doughty and saying he's a no doubt elite #1 defenseman, which is crazy.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I really like Chychrun, and I would give up valuable assets to acquire Chychrun, but holy crap is he being overrated on this site. Outside of last year with it's wonky only playing against a handful of teams (and the west was a bad division last year), Chychrun hasn't been anywhere close to elite. Outlier production in a strange year/circumstances raises an eyebrow to me. And you got people on the main board comparing him to prime Doughty and saying he's a no doubt elite #1 defenseman, which is crazy.

I agree there's a bit of OEL syndrome going on.

 

[Sol]

I think what people don't get really is that prospects don't really hit their ceilings for the most part. So there's definitely a lot of value in NHL seasoned players vs hope.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Sorry, if you are L.A., you make this move, yesterday, today, tomorrow, last week, next week, it doesn't matter, 2 1st round picks and 2 prospects, hell you have a known commodity in Chycrun, what if your next 2 1sts turn out to be Botterills? You pick 2 prospects that are redundant, Thomas and JAD, Faber and Gruns or whomever..... you don't pass on a known commodity for what might be someday someway....maybe half as good.

 

[KingsCourt]

yes please!!