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Speculation: 2021-22 LA Kings News, Rumors, Roster Thread Part VI

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tomd said:
There are other differences as well:
Eichel carries a $50 million commitment; Chychrun is $13.8 million
Eichel needed neck surgery and was demanding "his" version of the surgery; Chychrun is healthy

Arizona will get full price for him no doubt.
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That cap hit alone carries a MASSIVE value to contenders

Therein lies the balance

A contender probably can’t offer more than a non-contender, but would be more willing to. For the crap that gets a 1st every deadline, I can see two 1sts being the bare minimum start from a contender.
 
2 first, Byfield and Clarke? We better add 2 more firsts to that and shoot for McDavid then.

And stop with the Sergachev and Cernak pipe dreams. They aren’t being traded. Tampa will just ship out older wingers and hold onto their signed young defense group.
 
tomd said:
There are other differences as well:
Eichel carries a $50 million commitment; Chychrun is $13.8 million
Eichel needed neck surgery and was demanding "his" version of the surgery; Chychrun is healthy

Arizona will get full price for him no doubt.
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true that
 
Also I see a lot of people saying Chychrun is a physical defensemen. He has size but is no means a physical D in case ya'll were thinking we'd be getting a Jake Muzzin that's 10 years younger.

Ranked #91st among D in hits
Ranked #91st among D in blocked shots
Ranked #70th among D in takeaways
Ranked #12th among D in average time on ice
1 Career Fighting Major

6'2" , 220 lbs

Personally I'd rather have Sergachev but Chychrun is a solid 1B/ #2 guy in my opinion.
 
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Docgonzo said:
2 first, Byfield and Clarke? We better add 2 more firsts to that and shoot for McDavid then.

And stop with the Sergachev and Cernak pipe dreams. They aren’t being traded. Tampa will just ship out older wingers and hold onto their signed young defense group.
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TBL will move one of Serg or Erik, unless you think they can pay Serg $8-9mill per, Cernak $6mill per and still have the ability to fill out their roster with the depth they need to continue being a contender??
Without the majority of their picks the next two seasons and a prospect pipeline that’s drier than a bucket of sand they don’t have many options…. unless they magically pull real players out of their ass, they’ll need to move one of them to continue their run and rebuild their depth..
 
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kings11 said:
TBL will move one of Serg or Erik, unless you think they can pay Serg $8-9mill per, Cernak $6mill per and still have the ability to fill out their roster with the depth they need to continue being a contender??
Without the majority of their picks the next two seasons and a prospect pipeline that’s drier than a bucket of sand they don’t have many options…. unless they magically pull real players out of their ass, they’ll need to move one of them to continue their run and rebuild their depth..
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I'd do illegal things to get Sergy in LA.
 
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The Kings 1st round picks this year and next are way more valuable than the 1st round picks coming from true contenders like FL, TOR, BOS, WA, CAR, NYR, etc.
I'd even add the Ducks in them having more valuable picks because i don't believe they can continue at this level and will end up at or near the lottery .
 
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kings11 said:
TBL will move one of Serg or Erik, unless you think they can pay Serg $8-9mill per, Cernak $6mill per and still have the ability to fill out their roster with the depth they need to continue being a contender??
Without the majority of their picks the next two seasons and a prospect pipeline that’s drier than a bucket of sand they don’t have many options…. unless they magically pull real players out of their ass, they’ll need to move one of them to continue their run and rebuild their depth..
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So if Tampa can pay Sergachev 8-9 that means it’ll be like 10 for the Kings plus having to trade for him. So you want to trade assets and then sign him to like 10mil for 8 years? No thank you.
 
I'm surprised no one's brought up Mikey Anderson as part of the Chychrun package. I'd happily do Turcotte/GV + Mikey + 2021 1st for Chyc. Byfield and Clarke should be completely off-limits though.
 
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kings11 said:
What do you think of Provorov?
Signed long term with a damn good cap hit..
Philly looks like they’ll be starting a rebuild and maybe Hexy gives us a former employer discount lol
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Hexy would just give us Provorov as he’s with Pittsburgh not Philly!
 
Docgonzo said:
So if Tampa can pay Sergachev 8-9 that means it’ll be like 10 for the Kings plus having to trade for him. So you want to trade assets and then sign him to like 10mil for 8 years? No thank you.
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The TB tax logic works with guys like Kuch and Stammer, that’s not to say it won’t work for Serg.. all the things I’ve read about him and his upcoming contract are that he wants Jones/Werenski/Makar money.. will TB play the angle abslolutely, will it work.. who knows

$8-9.5 mill is what he would cost on any team..
the Kings need big bodies, he just happens to be the Apex Dman we would want/dream of..
As you’ve pointed out, it would have a major impact on our cap and we’d have to work it out..
I’m more interested in a big, physical guy but would settle for a smaller, stout defensive Dman ala Romanov..
all injuries aside the Kings have one of the softest D cores in the league and that needs to be address..
Clarke and Faber aren’t physical Dman though they get it done.. and that along with Doughty make up our right side..
Anderson and Bjornfot have done amazing and have grown a lot but we can only afford to have one undersized defensive defenseman
Anderson-Doughty
Soucy-Clarke… Soucy is a guy I want atm
Bjornfot-Durzi
Roy
Walker
Remove Soucy and we can see our current problem.
 
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kings11 said:
What do you think of Provorov?
Signed long term with a damn good cap hit..
Philly looks like they’ll be starting a rebuild and maybe Hexy gives us a former employer discount lol
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My wishlist would look something like:

1. Sergachev
2. Romanov
3. Provorov
4. Cernak
5. Chychrun
6. Dunn
 
I don't think there's any way the Coyotes accept a trade for Chychrun without Byfield or Clarke going the other way, which is why I don't think it'll happen.
 
kilowatt said:
I don't think there's any way the Coyotes accept a trade for Chychrun without Byfield or Clarke going the other way, which is why I don't think it'll happen.
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Chychrun isn't worth either of those. Maybe I'm just not as high on him as others but I'd be pretty bummed of Blake made that move.

Turcotte would probably be the most valuable piece I'd be willing to move in a scenario for any of the top guys.

Turcotte + Madden/Faber depending on who we're going after.
 
kings11 said:
Romanov would be a dream.. the kid is a monster!
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Absolutely.

Realistically he's probably just a #4 at the moment but he provides something so valuable that we don't have.

A young, physical, feisty, big hitter, that can actually skate and move the puck.
 
KingsHockey24 said:
My wishlist would look something like:

1. Sergachev
2. Romanov
3. Provorov
4. Cernak
5. Chychrun
6. Dunn
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If Sergachev really wants 8-9 million I think Chychrun at half that cost is a smarter move especially with Doughty signed for a while longer
 
Schmooley said:
If Sergachev really wants 8-9 million I think Chychrun at half that cost is a smarter move especially with Doughty signed for a while longer
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Within 2 years I see our left side set with Doughty, Clarke and Faber.. whose in the left is the question ??
Xxxxx-Doughty
Xxxxx-Clarke
Xxxx-Faber
We have Anderson, Bjornfot, Walker, Roy(rhd), Spence(rhd), Grans(rhd), Durzi(rhd)… log jam
 
kings11 said:
Within 2 years I see our left side set with Doughty, Clarke and Faber.. whose in the left is the question ??
Xxxxx-Doughty
Xxxxx-Clarke
Xxxx-Faber
We have Anderson, Bjornfot, Walker, Roy(rhd), Spence(rhd), Grans(rhd), Durzi(rhd)… log jam
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Doughty likes playing with Anderson so thats a good pair or Anderson - Faber as a 3rd shutdown pair is good too.
Its hard to say this early really. If they dont make the playoffs the picture will be more clear. I could see Doughty wanting out if they miss again. Hes a competitive guy and would do really well in a market like Toronto.
I do think Chychrun - Clarke is as good a pair as any in the league on paper…
Anderson - Doughty
X - Clarke
Bjornfot - Faber/Durzi/Grans/Spence
 
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Schmooley said:
Doughty likes playing with Anderson so thats a good pair or Anderson - Faber as a 3rd shutdown pair is good too.
Its hard to say this early really. If they dont make the playoffs the picture will be more clear. I could see Doughty wanting out if they miss again. Hes a competitive guy and would do really well in a market like Toronto.
I do think Chychrun - Clarke is as good a pair as any in the league on paper…
Anderson - Doughty
X - Clarke
Bjornfot - Faber/Durzi/Grans/Spence
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Let’s keep this logic because it’s really good..
Now we have Roy, Walker and Durzi.. what can we get for them?? Maybe a tons of assets or maybe one outstanding, young forward?

Regardless of how the Kings are atm, the future is super bright and the more the kids are able to establish themselves, the more tradeable assets we have.. such as the example above.
 
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