WC: 2015 — Team Sweden
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A: There are 3-4 championship during a period of 4 years in football, plus a lot of qualification and friendly matches.
B: All players that are out before semi-final in SC, can play in WC. So it really isnt that many that would be missing, if all that can would accept. It was a lot of key players missing in olympics, probably far more than it would have been now in WC if all that can would accept.
C: Different sport, so hard to compare which is most hard to do, but compare it with hockey players in europe. They play about the same number of games as a NHL player if you count in CL play and national team, and they shows up.
I agree that you can make changes to WC, to make it more attractive, or at least announce a 2ht tournament, the world cup should have been a IIHF tournament, then it wouldnt have been a joke as it is now. But still at the same time you can be constructive and want to make changes to WC, you can still question why swedish players do seems to not care about the national team. Ovechkin would go to WC with a broken leg pretty much and play with all his heart. You do not see that from the swedish players.
They usually are putting up a hype team, and if you would go by hype they would win it every year. But the hype is not ture, it is just succesfull marketing of their players. It is pretty obvious that canada is going down hill. They are maybe putting up their B-team, but sweden usually are putting up our D-team. But still we take medals almost every year, while canada has not reach semi-final in 5 years with similar or better teams than this years going by hype.
http://www.eliteprospects.com/team.php?status=stats&team=1616&year0=2015
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Yeahwould be awesome tho if he chocked us and accepted this ^^!
That would pretty much solve our problems down the middle. But I'm choosing to not ever believe that a swedish star player will accept a WC invitation if that player has an even half decent excuse, Zetterberg has a lot of excuses, good ones that is. Believing in it would simply cause too much dissapointment.
Haha yeah like i said! I'm not expecting him to join the swedish WC team! after all he got his back injury to blame it on.
I'm talking about motivation, not stamina. The Detroit players have played over 90 games (preseason, regular season, playoffs) over the course of the last 220 days or so. Now they are asked to play another ten games over 17 days, just to win the 3rd (arguably 4th after WHJC gold) biggest prize you can win in hockey. I can see why the motivation isn't there.
NHL teams play 3-4 games per week with just a short break for christmas and the allstar game. Their bodys take a regular beating with virtually no time to heal between games. Getting hit 10-15 times every week for seven months straight takes it's toll.
If IIHF bothered to make the WC more attractive, then players would be more motivated and be more willing to play through their numbs and bruises.
As for the Russian stars always coming, it was said during a Swedish broadcast a couple of years ago, that Datsyuk, Malkin, Ovechkin, Kovalchuk and others made a pact to always come and play if available. I wish the star players from all countires would do this, but it also means they could come and not be motivated.
Yeah and I don't blame him I even think he had a concussion this season or something he has been plagued by injuries for the past 3-4 years.
On the other hand, if you are a good soccer player you will probably play something like three times as much per game on average.
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I read that too but then I read this http://www.hockeysverige.se/2015/04/30/de-har-anmals-till-tre-kronors-vm-premiar/
Not all teams play in the CL, and only a couple of teams makes it far. The SHL has four full weak breaks because of the EHT, and few players play in more EHT tournaments every winter.
Not to mention the season in Europe starts a month earlier than the NHL. SHL teams starts their regular season in september, it takes them until christmas to play the 30th game of the season. Compare that to an NHL team which starts it's season in october, and will have played 34-35 games before christmas. It makes for a huge differance.
Players in Europe will also be more motivated, because for most of them the WC is the biggest thing they have a chance at winning. Few of them are ever gonna have a chance at the Stanley Cup or an Olympic gold.
And yes soccer and ice hockey are different sports, which was my point. Turning down the WC in ice hockey isn't remotely close to being the same as turning down the WC in soccer, because the WC is just the 3rd biggest thing you can win in hockey. Again I'd argue 4th behind WHJC gold.
Again, I'm talking about motivation not stamina. I played soccer with Piteå IF:s junior team eight years ago. I only played around 30 minutes most games. That doesn't mean I was more motivated come september, compared to my teammates who played 90 minutes the whole season. It doesn't matter if a hockey player plays 10 or 20 minutes per game. Everyone has to put in the same time at the rink and away from home and their other interests in life.
If the WC was played every 4th year, the likes of Zetterberg and Sedin's would be WAY more likely to come. It's never gonna happen because IIHF would lose a lot of profit if they did. But even if they could just make it every 2nd year, it would make a differance. WC 2015, nothing 2016, WC 2017, Olympics 2018.
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Haha so you say that every team bring their A teams
No. You have a mix of players, some of them would make the Olympic roster, some not.
Haha so you say that every team bring their A teams
Only a handful of the players on Sweden's roster would make the Olympic squad. Guys like Klefbom, Ekholm, Josefson, Lander, Lindstrom, Enroth etc aren't big names, but they play in the NHL and aren't exactly crap.
A few of this player in Sweden would make it to Olympic roster
And the difference are?!
A few of this player in Sweden would make it to Olympic roster
Sure, it's still not the B team.
Call it what you want... but this team isnt the best team sweden can offer... not even the second best team
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A few of this player in Sweden would make it to Olympic roster
And the differens are?!
Why are you so fixated with A teams and B teams? In reality there are no such teams. We have one national team and that's it. And right now this is the roster we have. Yes it would be nice if Zetterberg, Karlsson and the Sedins came to play. It would also be nice if my Volvo was a Lamborghini...
The WC has never been a best on best tournament. If that's your point, everyone on HFboards already knows it. But if your point was that this Swedish roster makes for a bad hockey team, I disagree. My beloved Anaheim Ducks are a better team, but I'm still looking forward to watch good hockey games in this tournament. If you don't that's up to you.
Swedens olympic roster team wasent either best on best... we missed players there aswell...
OFC im gonna watch good hockey, but still kinda frustrating that teams like Canada,Russia gets their stare players to play for their national team while our just don't give a crap about it.
But W/E like you said this tournament are like 4 maybe 5 best to win for this players...
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