SoundAndFury
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WC: 2015 — Team Sweden
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With or without Kronwall & Ericsson I would like to have Gunnarsson on the team. With all the fine names on the D side not coming (I miss the most Hedman, Edler & Karlsson, but there are others too) I certainly can see Gunnarsson slotting in on the squad.
Yes, there are some smaller nations in WC that could help players look good statswise, but in the end it is not they we really compete against. Canada has not reach semi-final in 5 years even though they always have a hype team on paper, but still they are not among top 4 best teams in WC the last 5 years.
I agree about the last part, but I always think in general that internationally is a step up from a domestic league. Players play on more even terms then. As I said before, you see this everywhere, even in other sports, players almost always oreformance different internatiinally than in the domestic league. For me it is what do you internationally that counts the most, but the best are best at both places.
I'm not saying that players from this smaller nations are bad. Quite frankly, I wish NHL teams would be more willing to take a chance on some of these players. Sign a Miks Indrasis or Charles Bertrand and see what they can do. Afterall NHL teams are allowed to have 50 contracts, and I don't think players loaned to juniors or Europe even count against that limit.
I do agree that international play is different from the domestic league. This is why I'm happy with Enroth/Nilsson in goal and think Eddie Lack would be an unessecary addition. Lots of SHL fans think Axel Holmstrom should have been a lock for this tournament. But the reality is he hasn't played a single game at the international senior level. The same thing can obviously be said Rask, Lindholm, Josefson, Lander, Klingberg and Klefbom. But the differance is that these youngsters are playing in the world's best league, with the best players from many different countries.
Damn. Sweden looks scary good and now if you will add Zetterberg / Kronwall / Ericsson or Nyquist... My god. I'm already nervous about tomorrows game, very good team this year for you.
It's extremely unlikely that Zetterberg joins the team, the same goes for Kronwall Nyquist might join but he willa not play tommorow either way. Forsberg and Ekholm might be too jetlagged to play. Honestly I don't want Ericsson anywhere near the NT.
The defense is very good though
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Let's hope Anaheim gets eliminated in 4, not going to happen but I want many young guys on the team.
Haha yeah
Like a guy just said!
Well i think that so many "injured" player reject to go to WC is because of Pär Mårts
And Finland, Czech republic, USA or Russia doesn't have B teams? USA more likely C team. Russia is pretty good but they are still missing players like Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Radulov, Datsyuk (he might come though), Markov, Emelin etc. Canada has top offense but goalies are below average and their defense is also not so good compared to what they could have.
You have very good team and a good chance to win the gold if your players will perform as expected or better to say to their best standards.
HAHA you must be kidding me... no other team then Sweden and USA have had this many refuses from their topplayers
HAHA you must be kidding me... no other team then Sweden and USA have had this many refuses from their topplayers
First of all, Sweden had over 70 players play in the NHL this season. Czechs and Fins had 30 something. In other words, Sweden has more depth in the NHL to choose from.
Czechs, on home ice nonetheless, are missing Krejci, Vrbata, Z. Michalek and Hanzal. Zidlicky is injured and is likely gonna say no as well. They are missing Hudler, Plekanec and Palat playing playoff hockey. Frolik and M. Michalek aren't on their current roster either, not sure if they are healthy and will be added.
All in all, you are looking at it wrong. How good a roster is on paper is determined by looking at those who are on the roster, not those who are missing from it.
And swedens roster is not even close to be as god as it could be...
Kronwall,Zetterberg,Nyqvist,Karlsson,sedin brothers, etc,etc,etc
This Swedish roster is maybe a B-C team
And swedens roster is not even close to be as god as it could be...
Kronwall,Zetterberg,Nyqvist,Karlsson,sedin brothers, etc,etc,etc
This Swedish roster is maybe a B-C team
I never argued otherwise. What me and tade are saying is that all countires have their B team.
If Sweden came with this roster to the Olympics, it would be a different story. But in the World Championships every team has it's B team more or less. It has always been like this and it will always be like this as long as World Championships are played every year and collide with the Stanley Cup schedule.
This Swedish team has a chance to win gold. Canada and Russia look better on paper as usual, but the final is just ONE game. You have a good day and your opponent doesn't = you win gold. Even Slovakia and Switzerland are good enough to beat any team in this tournament in just one game. Thus, they can make it through the quarter final and compete for a medal.
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And swedens roster is not even close to be as god as it could be...
Kronwall,Zetterberg,Nyqvist,Karlsson,sedin brothers, etc,etc,etc
This Swedish roster is maybe a B-C team
you still don't understand the point of the posts above.
Thats not my point... Canada's top players, Finlands, Russias etc... if they have the chans to play for their countery they do, they dont give a **** if it is WC or Olympics... but with our Swedish stars they allways say "injuried" even thoe they would still have played the SC if they still was in it...
To compare it with Footaball i never see Zlatan refuse to join the Swedish national team for a worthles friend game...
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And swedens roster is not even close to be as god as it could be...
Kronwall,Zetterberg,Nyqvist,Karlsson,sedin brothers, etc,etc,etc
This Swedish roster is maybe a B-C team
Well duh? The big teams all miss a lot of players. No difference from every other year.
Well duh, Russia allways gets their topplayer if they arent in SC same goes with Canada
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A lot of players who got eliminated from Stanley Cup playoffs and said no to WHC would play if their respective teams would be still in SC playoffs (not only players from Sweden) but that's how it is. It seems like you see everything only about Sweden and their players and ignore every others facts.
As I said every team is missing a lot of key players, not only Sweden. And every team has their B/C teams.
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Most often it's the club that says no, not the player. All NHL players go through tests when the season is over to determine their health. Clubs have invested in their players and want them healthy and fresh come training camp.
Many players undergo surgery through april and may. If they go to the WC, surgery has to wait until late may or until june. Then players lose valuable time for summer training and won't be ready for training camp.
But yes, in many cases I'm sure players don't feel motivated and use the club stopping them as an excuse. If IIHF cared about getting the best players to the tournament, they wouldn't have it every year. A WC gold medal doesn't entice enough, because it's too easy to win.
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Well duh, Russia allways gets their topplayer if they arent in SC same goes with Canada
No. Canada usually play without most of their top players.
Still it doesn't matter how you twist it. Lets take a look who's on the rosters then. Look who's on the Canadian roster and on the Swedish and tell me that we will get gold. That's is what it is about: gold.
We don't have the same depth so our players (if I dare to call them "ours" anymore) must man up to win the duel situation.
Like i said before... other nations topplayers see it like an honor to go to play for their national team... just look at Russia and Canada if their best player is avaible they for sure will join the team even if its a tournament like WC... while the Swedish players to often blame "injuries"
I have never seen Zlatan "if he ofc is not really injuried" have refused to represent the Swedish national Football team... and there is even more money involved... to play som ****** friend game.
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