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Speculation: 2 years away. Do you think Matthews accepts a slight raise OR takes us to the cleaners next contract?

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Does Matthews accept slight raise or demands top dollar?

  • He accepts a slight raise to stay in Toronto and spread the cap around to help the team

    Votes: 53 17.2%

  • He takes top dollar because he's earned it. Doesn't care about the cap that's Dubas's problem

    Votes: 257 83.4%
  • Total voters
    308
Yeah, we're screwed. Matthews will ask for more and he's one of a small number of players that deserves it. Nylander also deserves $1M more at a minimum. We really need Tavares off the books in 2 years.
 
Nick Kypreos is reporting Matthews wants $15M x 8. I can't find the original source, only that a few hockey news outlets are reporting on it (slow day, I guess). Also mentions Leafs won't give him that and it will be a long negotiation.

What say you?

Sign?

Trade?

Kypreos doesn't know jack?
 
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SoftDumpNtheCorner88 said:
After seeing what MacKinnon got, there's no question Matthews deserved more for individual stats, but he's still never gotten past the first round. He's also got top dollar on his first contract.

Slight raise is somewhere around 12-13.5. I would be happy with $13m. I'd be thrilled with $12m (assuming the rational is MacKinnon has won his team a cup therefore he has proven his worth in the playoffs). Matthews still hasn't shown he can get us out of the first round (he's more than capable but it hasn't come to fruition yet) so does he leave money on the table to help Dubas build a better all around team?

Or does he take us to the cleaners and him and his agent demand the max $16.3m. I would say $14m+ would extend us into this continued cap restraint we're seeing now, where we are complaining about having no other stars other than our big 5, and continue keep looking for bargain bin value contracts and hoping for a gem.


A little early to talk about but with MacKinnon being the highest paid player into he league just now, it doesn't hurt to speculate what it could be and how it will effect us after.
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I dont agree on the sentence "he is More than capable of brining us to the second round".... He has not shown the things real warriors do to take teams to the second round. Thats eating pucks, checking, hitting, talking and yelling. Roaring. Doing something special. Even fighting if that's what it takes. In fact matthews has laughed at mont players at times when they have challenged him... there is video evidence of it. So that has to go and change before we can say: "he is More than capable". No he is not. Has not shown anything that proves otherwise. Other players have. People can change though, and its possible. Not probable though
 
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Jacquestrapless said:
Nick Kypreos is reporting Matthews wants $15M x 8. I can't find the original source, only that a few hockey news outlets are reporting on it (slow day, I guess). Also mentions Leafs won't give him that and it will be a long negotiation.

What say you?

Sign?

Trade?

Kypreos doesn't know jack?
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An AAV of 15M sure sounds like a tough one with MacKinnon's 12.6M currently serving as the bar. While I'd absolutely prefer the idea of signing Matthews for the full term this time around, I'd probably look to sacrifice something there in order to bring that AAV down by 1-2M (and I'd hope for the latter).
 
15X8 is crazy talk, and that would yet again entail an overpayment to Marnet, as well as all other depth players scoffing at the idea of taking a team friendly deal. How your star gets paid speaks volumes to how the rest of the team expects to get paid. Discounts only work if everyone takes one
 
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I'm a Habs fan born and raised in Toronto. I honestly have followed the leafs almost as much as the Habs since I was a kid. I use to think Matthews would ditch the leafs and either go home or go to a sunbelt market. I truly believe he'll stay now. But I think he gets 14-15 AAV honestly. MacKinnon isnt even the best player on his team and honestly not as good as Matthews but still got over 12.5. People shit on the leafs cap situation without bringing up the cap being affected by covid. But at the same time, it would probably just mean they could sign hyman. But cap flexibility has been the issue for the Dubas regime. In that regard, after signing Matthews which I think is 75% probability, I do not think they resign Nylander. Best move to make is to take a year or so off of being competitive to retool and restock the pipeline so next time they start competing, they can bring in cheap contracts when necessary and to offset the high contracts
 
Matthews for 8x15 is an easy sign. You pay superstars, superstar money.. it's really that simple. This isn't a video game and he's not taking 10m to suffice some random dude on a hockey forum.
 
If Matthews gets 15 what does Marner and Nylander get. Marner 13.5 and Nylander 11?

If Matthews goes and signs for top dollars that sets the tone and everyone else will want to.
 
Buds17 said:
While I'd absolutely prefer the idea of signing Matthews for the full term this time around, I'd probably look to sacrifice something there in order to bring that AAV down by 1-2M (and I'd hope for the latter).
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Less term would increase the price, not decrease it.
 
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14x8 for Matthews
12.5x8 for Marner
9x8 for Nylander
7.5x3 for JT

Basically 6m increase for Matthews, Marner and Nylander, saving 3.5m on JT.

These are the numbers I would try and get their next contracts around.
 
HuGo Burner Acc said:
I'm a Habs fan born and raised in Toronto. I honestly have followed the leafs almost as much as the Habs since I was a kid. I use to think Matthews would ditch the leafs and either go home or go to a sunbelt market. I truly believe he'll stay now. But I think he gets 14-15 AAV honestly. MacKinnon isnt even the best player on his team and honestly not as good as Matthews but still got over 12.5. People shit on the leafs cap situation without bringing up the cap being affected by covid. But at the same time, it would probably just mean they could sign hyman. But cap flexibility has been the issue for the Dubas regime. In that regard, after signing Matthews which I think is 75% probability, I do not think they resign Nylander. Best move to make is to take a year or so off of being competitive to retool and restock the pipeline so next time they start competing, they can bring in cheap contracts when necessary and to offset the high contracts
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They’ve already taken off 5 yrs of being competitive. If they take off any more, Detroit, Buffalo and maybe Ottawa will surpass them.

Chances don’t come very often and if the goaltending doesn’t implode this might be the only year in the Matthews era where they have playoff success.
 
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