Team's biggest struggle with lack of depth and no one knows if Gabe is coming back. You get yourself another superstar for one year and go for it because as we've seen dynasties don't have long shelf lives.
Value of: (1 yr rental) Matthews to COL BOS CAR SEA VGK
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My guess it'll be something like 50% retained Matthews for A tier prospect + conditional 2nd (becomes 1st if he re-signs)
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DingDongCharlie
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Matthews does come across as a guy who'd love LA. He would fit right in Beverly Hills lifestyle.
lanceuppercut75
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You don't need to give up Byram to get Matthews from Toronto.
Girard + Lehkonen + 1st is a VERY very rough idea of what it would take IMO. Maybe that's too much or too little or whatever, but it's a rough draft which can be worked on and modified into something that works. It's in the right ballpark and the roster players / cap aspects work.
Somebody else in this thread said Toews + 1st. Not sure the Avalanche would do that, but if Toronto is in a position where they can't extend Matthews and they also can't sign and trade him, I imagine that they agree to Toews + 1st.
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I'm a Toronto (and Pittsburgh) fan, not a Colorado fan.
Matthews is a 1 year rental. His trade value may be high, but it's no longer sky high as the contract length has entered into rental territory. If the Leafs had dreams of trading Matthews for an insanely good return, they should have traded him when he still had term on his contract, or they'd better hope that they can accomplish a sign and trade (probably Kings or Ducks or possibly Coyotes).
Then it’s a case of undervaluing a player due to an emotional reaction. This is a 26 year who’s averaged just under 50 goals a season over the last 4.
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People are sleeping on Carolina having a big interest in Matthews despite several clear reasons; including favorable reasons for the Hurricanes.
They were heavily linked to trade talks over Eichel, Matt Tkachuk, and Meier. Like Matthews, all are 20 something year old all-star forwards.
Compared to many other fellow cup contenders (particularly in the east) after this year's trade deadline, Carolina is loaded with trade assets. The Canes are also one of the few cup contenders that wouldn't worry about his contract's salary; they easily would have enough cap room next season and would make room if necessary in the summer of '24 with several contracts expiring in that off season.
Also, after being in a cooker pressure media wise and fan wise in Toronto, he'd probably appreciate something more low key atmosphere wise, and we have warm weather in North Carolina with beaches (since he'd probably appreciate that given his California connection), and we have mountains.
Finally, we have a player's coach in Rod Brind'Amour who is loved by the whole team and our fans, and is gonna be in the hockey hall of fame one day. Maybe being coached by a guy who won the Stanley Cup as a captain, is an inspirational leader that has gotten shit done, and who was also a center man like Matthews, might be appealing to him. Seems like that'd be a bigger deal for a star forward like Matthews trying to get over the playoff hump. What better way than being with an annual playoff team for 5 years in a row that has at LEAST gotten out of the 1st round each time (obviously relevant given Toronto's many 1st round exits), and still has a bright future as a team unlike say Boston with its core on the verge of retirement.
They were heavily linked to trade talks over Eichel, Matt Tkachuk, and Meier. Like Matthews, all are 20 something year old all-star forwards.
Compared to many other fellow cup contenders (particularly in the east) after this year's trade deadline, Carolina is loaded with trade assets. The Canes are also one of the few cup contenders that wouldn't worry about his contract's salary; they easily would have enough cap room next season and would make room if necessary in the summer of '24 with several contracts expiring in that off season.
Also, after being in a cooker pressure media wise and fan wise in Toronto, he'd probably appreciate something more low key atmosphere wise, and we have warm weather in North Carolina with beaches (since he'd probably appreciate that given his California connection), and we have mountains.
Finally, we have a player's coach in Rod Brind'Amour who is loved by the whole team and our fans, and is gonna be in the hockey hall of fame one day. Maybe being coached by a guy who won the Stanley Cup as a captain, is an inspirational leader that has gotten shit done, and who was also a center man like Matthews, might be appealing to him. Seems like that'd be a bigger deal for a star forward like Matthews trying to get over the playoff hump. What better way than being with an annual playoff team for 5 years in a row that has at LEAST gotten out of the 1st round each time (obviously relevant given Toronto's many 1st round exits), and still has a bright future as a team unlike say Boston with its core on the verge of retirement.
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I understand that. I'm referring to when he signed his current deal. He was an RFA with no leverage and the Leafs shot themselves in the foot. Just inexcusably poor management.
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Cool! I sincerely hope they do, because the horses they have aren't getting it done.
Only way to fix it is to get rid of one of those core pieces. Tavares is untradeable, Nylander is a fair contract so that leaves Marner and Matthews.
Move one of them, get something decent in return. Or use the return to trade for someone else. Or use the cap space to sign a free agent. Shaking things up in a massive way is the only way this core is going to win anything.
But by all means, I hope Dubas keeps his job, refuses to fire Keefe and goes into next season shuffling the chairs in the bottom 6 and deciding that this will be the solution.
Then The Maple Leafs completely implode in 2 seasons and rebuild for another 6. I like that as a Sens fan. Go right ahead.
The Aves can't afford to give up their future top pairing guy for luxury on the second line.
The fact they had no secondary scoring was the main reason they lost to Seattle. I have no faith that Landskog plays again.
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Matthews to le Rangers for Panarin, Trocheck, Schneider, 1st
this would never happen for many reasons but I would do it right now
this would never happen for many reasons but I would do it right nowThat's a good point. The Aves needed clutch scoring. And nothing says clutch playoff scoring like Austin Matthews.
I don't like him but he had as many goals in that first round as the entire Colorado second line.
Why would the Coyotes give up 6oa when they can wait until he’s a UFA a year later? Arizona is in no rush.
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They’re my pick for Marner. I can see a Jarvis+Morrow package. Marner isn’t a pure rental and he would probably benefit most from getting out of Toronto.
lanceuppercut75
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Los Angeles laughs and hangs up unless Matthews comes with a long-term extension.
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(UFA negotiating rights for Stastny) maybe???
Morrow
Is that something Carolina would consider?
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I’m 90% confident he’s re-sign there. Either way I don’t think that proposal disrupts the core of their current team and it’s actually cap positive for LAK. I’d like to hear a LAK fans perspective.
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