Zucker taking Vengeance against Nick Cousins after his hit on Valimaki (suspended 3 games)

[Hobble]

YES reinstate the code full force it makes hockey better

But wouldn’t the Code dictate Zucker going after the other team’s smallest or youngest player instead of the player who was guilty of the bad play?

Asking for a commentator friend.

 

[drktmplr12]

cousins sucks, but let's take a scientific look at what is going on. the reaction time of a neuron to visual input is 180 ms. MIT research concludes that it takes the average human 390 to 600 ms to react to road hazards, not including the time it takes to physically turn the wheel or apply the brakes.

57.6 pokes at the puck during a clearing attempt
57.4 collapses arms inward
57.2 collision


if he had the benefit of time to premeditate the hit as suggested by many, he would have done far more damage as the opportunity presented itself. if anything, he showed restraint. the defender goes to their knees to block the clear, cousins is focused on the puck. when he sees the defender's new position, he has 400 ms to react. simply not enough for a human to change trajectory in a meaningful way. collapsing his arms inwards suggests an "oh shit" moment.

an experiment-how fast can you react when you are expecting a change in visual?

Reaction time test | Reaction speed | CPS Check

Are you a speedster or a slowpoke? Check it now!

cps-check.com

after about 50 tries i got down to 197 ms.

typical was 220-230 ms.

 

[RogerRoger]

Posts like this are so lame. It's like you're incapable of contributing to a thread in a meaningful way and instead have to resort to pointless chirps to a guy that likely isn't even a Leafs fan. This thread isn't even about the Leafs, be better.

(in before stupid tHe LeAfS nEeD tO bE bEtTeR!!)

Yeah, because it's such an excellent thread full of great takes about wishing concussion and injuries to players. So please, continue your moral crusade and call out the other lame comments instead of adding one more lame comments.

 

[Number8]

You are now labelled as a person that lacks superior reading comprehension abilities. Nothing more or less.


I don't see anyone in there with a Predators jersey either. I'm speaking on Cousins' history and adding extra context to why I am happy his brains got a slight scrambling.

I was trying to say Cousins was likely ignorant to any meaning beyond that of "haha big nose" to his gesture.. But both of you geniuses missed that and put words in my mouth.

Cousins is a piece of shit.

What a pile of completely silly dumbassery.

By the way, I carefully looked at the letters in your post and came to the realization if I totally resort them and get rid of a bunch of them you could make a slur that is highly offensive to me and my people. No need to tell you what that is. I know, and that’s good enough for me. Bigot.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Cousins more than earned it. Quite the act he has going on.

 

[krutovsdonut]

Cousins more than earned it. Quite the act he has going on.

amazing, cousins is so bad that he makes bruins fans momentarily forget they are bruins fans and start calling him out. that's a rat's rat right there.

 

[Sniperberg]

Brilliant piece of shithousery by Cousins baiting Zucker like that.

Game's not gone after all.

 

[Ratsreign]

And then you have guys like this on you tube who use the still frame that makes the hit look like murder as the main page thumbnail, and only show the same clip as in OP. Basing there faux journalism rage grandstanding about Cousins hitting Valimaki solely on that clip. He goes off without ever showing another angle, there’s at least one that shows both players as the play developed. The comments there are also full of enraged fans going off an incomplete picture.
gets lots of clicks, though

 

[Tom Polakis]

I get what he was trying to do, and it is a normal hockey play to try and keep puck in the zone by going down to block it. But doing it when he did wasn’t very smart, you can’t do that when someone is a few feet away coming right at you to challenge for that puck coming up the wall. I’d love to see more respect shown between players when it comes to boarding plays and hits from behind, but rule number 1 is still to protect yourself at all times. After all, there are guys like Cousins out there who can’t be relied on to always do the right thing.

I see a ton of hate toward Cousins in this thread. When he played here in 2017-19, he was a solid third/fourth-line player, and anything but a thug. Now I see his stats with only 30 or 40 penalty minutes in subsequent seasons. Does he often get away with dirty stuff on the Panthers, or does all this hate stem from a few episodes?

 

[DearDiary]

And then you have guys like this on you tube who use the still frame that makes the hit look only like murder as the main page thumbnail, and only show the same clip as in OP. Basing there faux journalism rage grandstanding about Cousins hitting Valimaki solely on that clip. He goes off without ever showing another angle, there’s at least one that shows both players as the play developed. The comments there are also full of enraged fans going off an incomplete picture.
gets lots of clicks, though

Imagine defending an image of murder like this. So sad and very disrespectful to the people involved in this unsightly display of savagery.

 

[Ratsreign]

I see a ton of hate toward Cousins in this thread. When he played here in 2017-19, he was a solid third/fourth-line player, and anything but a thug. Now I see his stats with only 30 or 40 penalty minutes in subsequent seasons. Does he often get away with dirty stuff on the Panthers, or does all this hate stem from a few episodes?

He is definitely an agitator and forechecks relentlessly. Idk about getting away with a lot, I’m sure many would say yes. His physical play stirs up opponents and their fans. I never knew much about him before he was in Nashville, but when FL played them I remember always thinking that Gudas should kick his ass, lol. The disdain for him seems to go waayyyy back, but the recent Gudbranson hit pissed everyone off, many FL fans included.

 

[Heldig]

Zucker did what he was supposed to do, defending his teammate against a shitty hot.

He shouldn't have to be penalized.

The penalty was much deserved but I love it. POS player is served justice for a POS cheap shot.

Cant really complain about the 3 games either. Wheel of Justice aside.

 

[LastOne2100]

I just don't understand how someone as incompetent at their job as Parros can still be employed?

This is what happens when the DOPS doesn't do their own f***ing job.

 

[tarheelhockey]

cousins sucks, but let's take a scientific look at what is going on. the reaction time of a neuron to visual input is 180 ms. MIT research concludes that it takes the average human 390 to 600 ms to react to road hazards, not including the time it takes to physically turn the wheel or apply the brakes.

57.6 pokes at the puck during a clearing attempt
57.4 collapses arms inward
57.2 collision


if he had the benefit of time to premeditate the hit as suggested by many, he would have done far more damage as the opportunity presented itself. if anything, he showed restraint. the defender goes to their knees to block the clear, cousins is focused on the puck. when he sees the defender's new position, he has 400 ms to react. simply not enough for a human to change trajectory in a meaningful way. collapsing his arms inwards suggests an "oh shit" moment.

an experiment-how fast can you react when you are expecting a change in visual?

Reaction time test | Reaction speed | CPS Check

Are you a speedster or a slowpoke? Check it now!

cps-check.com

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after about 50 tries i got down to 197 ms.

typical was 220-230 ms.

I hope people take the time to actually read and consider this post.

Especially in context that Cousins was already in motion, so any attempt at changing direction was going to take a lot more than an instantaneous reflex.

 

[LastOne2100]

I hope people take the time to actually read and consider this post.

Especially in context that Cousins was already in motion, so any attempt at changing direction was going to take a lot more than an instantaneous reflex.

Yes, launching himself upwards by jumping and leading with the elbow was definitely necessary. No way to avoid that.

Collision was definitely unavoidable, but he was trying to throw a bad hit to start with.

 

[Ratsreign]

Yes, launching himself upwards by jumping and leading with the elbow was definitely necessary. No way to avoid that.

Collision was definitely unavoidable, but he was trying to throw a bad hit to start with.

In that one widely seen still frame it really looks like that is the case.

To say Cousins was trying to throw a bad hit to start with is way off.
The hit would’ve been an ordinary hit if valimaki doesn’t drop to his knees right in front of him. The elbow he’s “leading with” would’ve been nowhere near his head. Cousins never left his feet before contact. His feet came up after contact initiated. And from the down low on his knees position valimaki put himself in at the last second, perhaps any “launching himself upwards“ might actually help lessen the impact on his head at that point, because “upwards” wasn’t where valimaki was.

Some seem not to realize that the puck was coming up the wall and Cousins was coming over to make sure it cleared the zone. Cousins’ attention is on the puck as much as, if not more than, it is on Valimaki. Then, as all three are converging just inside the blue line, the guy drops to his knees to try to keep puck in the zone as Cousins is right there coming in to engage him/ try to tip it past him. It happened very fast, to say it was some kind of planned douchery by Cousins is pretty ridiculous. His reputation is what is, and it seems to prevent some from watching this play objectively.

 

[Ducer]

Skates are off the ice before contact watch the replay in slow motion, all this is going to lead to is another Bertuzzi/Moore incident for league.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

I just don't understand how someone as incompetent at their job as Parros can still be employed?

This is what happens when the DOPS doesn't do their own f***ing job.

Parros went to Princeton, so obviously he's really smart. [I really hope I don't have to point out the sarcasm in that.] Of course, your question presumes that the Department of "Player Safety" is really concerned about player safety. Considering the NHLPA continues to be silent on this stuff, I can only assume it's complicit and really enjoys the general lack of discipline even as more of its members suffer at the hands of a few.

But wouldn’t the Code dictate Zucker going after the other team’s smallest or youngest player instead of the player who was guilty of the bad play?

Asking for a commentator friend.

Actually, the code would dictate that Zucker goes after both Cousins and the other team's smallest and/or youngest player. And if the innocent suffer as a result, ... well, that's not just OK, it's fully acceptable because it happens under the auspices of the code. And, the code ensures that this kind of cheap stuff never happens again, even as it gives license for equally / more cheap stuff as part of getting proper retribution under the code.

 

[3074326]

amazing, cousins is so bad that he makes bruins fans momentarily forget they are bruins fans and start calling him out. that's a rat's rat right there.

Why aren't Bruins fans allowed to call out gross behavior? Who is your favorite team so we an all point and laugh at your hypocrisy, as you seem to be attempting to do.

 

[Rob Brown]

Yeah, because it's such an excellent thread full of great takes about wishing concussion and injuries to players. So please, continue your moral crusade and call out the other lame comments instead of adding one more lame comments.

I didn't say anything of the sort that you are describing, but that doesn't mean that irrelevant comments about teams not involved in this situation are justified or funny.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Yes, launching himself upwards by jumping and leading with the elbow was definitely necessary. No way to avoid that.

Collision was definitely unavoidable, but he was trying to throw a bad hit to start with.

That’s a whole other argument and given that it’s Cousins, probably accurate.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Parros went to Princeton, so obviously he's really smart. [I really hope I don't have to point out the sarcasm in that.] Of course, your question presumes that the Department of "Player Safety" is really concerned about player safety. Considering the NHLPA continues to be silent on this stuff, I can only assume it's complicit and really enjoys the general lack of discipline even as more of its members suffer at the hands of a few.


Actually, the code would dictate that Zucker goes after both Cousins and the other team's smallest and/or youngest player. And if the innocent suffer as a result, ... well, that's not just OK, it's fully acceptable because it happens under the auspices of the code. And, the code ensures that this kind of cheap stuff never happens again, even as it gives license for equally / more cheap stuff as part of getting proper retribution under the code.

Parros going to Princeton is meaningless. Do you really think that students playing sports in the NCAA all actually deserve the grades they get.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I will say, he’s pretty good at feigning ignorance/accident. “Whoa, I had no intention of hitting you in the face when I put my elbow where your face is! Why is everyone so angry?” It’s almost more obnoxious than a goon who will own being a piece of shit.

A coward is the one that goes and makes these dirty hits and refuses to answer for them each time. Some of the players we have despised in the past at least had the guts to answer the bell.

Cousins must have been born with a yellow streak down his back. It's a shame prosecutors didn't have enough evidence on top of what they had to convict him back when they should have, Cousins never deserved his career.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

3 games?!? DoPS is such a shit show.

 

[Ted Hoffman]

Parros going to Princeton is meaningless. Do you really think that students playing sports in the NCAA all actually deserve the grades they get.

Parros went to Princeton, so obviously he's really smart. [I really hope I don't have to point out the sarcasm in that.]

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