Zucker taking Vengeance against Nick Cousins after his hit on Valimaki (suspended 3 games)

[CrownofThornton]

Different games

McAvoy injured OEL the first game in Boston

The hit on McAvoy was game 2 in Florida

Gotcha, thanks for clarifying.

 

[Ratsreign]

Cousins just laying there like a little bitch too. Still not sure how he didn’t get a big suspension. Someone explain thet one to me lol

looked like was KO’d for a bit. Zucker was giving him the ol’ wakey wakey afterwards.
Valimaki dropping to his knees right in front of an incoming check was why even a minor penalty wasn’t called. It can be argued forever what Cousins could’ve or should’ve done in that split second, and his history will earn him no slack with many. But so many are ignoring the incredibly stupid move by Valimaki to try and keep puck in the zone.

for real though, there doesnt seem to be major head contact except for maybe when he fake rag-dolled at the end.

there was with the glass
he kinda looked like bug on a windshield.

 

[Neil Racki]

Now THIS is how you respond to a perceived dirty hot on a team mate.

Do we want teammates, who might not even have seen the hit just the result ... to decide what is a good hit or bad hit?

HF - I hate when guys have to fight after a clean hit.
Also HF - he should get a medal for blindside slamming his head into the glass putting that guy in concussion protocol .. and its totally justified bc his teammate "perceived" it as a dirty hit

HF - he could have caused serious brain damage with that hit
Also HF - Im so happy Cousins is in concussion protocol with a brain injury!

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So now the precedent is a teammate can slam an opposing players head into the glass IF he perceives a hit to be dirty

Even if the replay shows the hit wasnt dirty but unfortunate

just trying to keep up with all the moving lines

 

[JFleegs]

Hell yeah Zucker! Panthers area bunch of dirty pos.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

People often try to blame the NHLPA but they are duty bound to represent all players in these matters. They have no authority to punish members in the NHL. It’s not their purpose or role.

They could and should do more about educating members about head injury and promoting respectful play but that’s about all they can do.

I’m not so much blaming the PA as wondering why they will advocate for members whose reckless play injured other members, but not the members who are injured. I’m not saying the PA should suspend anyone. But the players who are injured by reckless play are also PA members. Shouldn’t the PA somehow take up for them?

 

[Score08]

Hopefully Trouba doesn’t pull a trouba on cousins skull the next time they play.

 

[Tom Polakis]

How much of this bullshit retaliation would go away if the Refs didn't constantly blow the call on the initial play?

Maybe some of it, but not this one in particular. Zucker hit Cousins about 1 second after his hit on Valimaki, and he didn't check first to see if the ref made a call.

 

[McJedi]

Cousins is a sad joke of a hockey player. Taking up the mantle from guys like Carcillo, Downie, and Shaw.
At least they answered the bell once and a while, this guy is a spineless rat.

How dare you you neglect Matt Cooke in your examples of dirty players. He was the worst of his generation.

JK on tone. Just wanted to add one more joke of a player.

 

[Tom Polakis]

looked like was KO’d for a bit. Zucker was giving him the ol’ wakey wakey afterwards.
Valimaki dropping to his knees right in front of an incoming check was why even a minor penalty wasn’t called. It can be argued forever what Cousins could’ve or should’ve done in that split second, and his history will earn him no slack with many. But so many are ignoring the incredibly stupid move by Valimaki to try and keep puck in the zone.

there was with the glass
he kinda looked like bug on a windshield.

You've been pretty reasonable in this thread so far, but here you've let your homer glasses get the best of you. Valimaki using the largest part of his body to keep the puck in the zone. Since he's a defenseman, if it slips past his legs along the boards, there's a potential 2-on-1 the other way.

And I'm not the Coyotes fan in here commenting that Cousins hit was dirty. Everyone needs to watch the replay in actual speed, and see how fast both Valimaki's "incredibly stupid move" and Cousins' "reckless hit to the head" occurred. Both were normal hockey plays.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I’m not so much blaming the PA as wondering why they will advocate for members whose reckless play injured other members, but not the members who are injured. I’m not saying the PA should suspend anyone. But the players who are injured by reckless play are also PA members. Shouldn’t the PA somehow take up for them?

I guess the question is how exactly do they take up for the injured player? They’re basically required to represent the suspended player.

I think they should be educating players about concussions and CTE but for all I know that could already be happening.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

He did a big nose gesture to a known Jewish player. I added that Cousins is probably ignorant to the antisemitic meaning behind the gesture

This is one of the funniest posts I have ever seen.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Nah that's bullshit. Cousins has enough time to let up but instead he wants to make contact and even kind of jumps into it. There's time to stop or skate to the sides and he doesn't because we know Cousins has zero regard for player safety and saw his opportunity and took it anyway because that is just the type of player and person he is. He's a disgusting person and just as disgusting as a player

Again, Valimaki dropped to the ice about half a second before contact. Realistically Cousins doesn’t have time to process what he’s seeing and then change direction to avoid the hit. It’s like expecting someone to swerve and avoid a collision when the car in front of them abruptly slams their brakes at high speed. Half a second simply isn’t enough time.

The hit you see is more-or-less what would have happened if Valimaki had stayed standing up.

Yes Cousins is a rat, but that doesn’t mean everything he does is premeditated and avoidable.

 

[Number8]

People in general never fail to meet my rock bottom expectations. Does my being annoyed with the gesture offend you?

Sorry to disappoint. I feel similarly -- largely because of posts like yours. Freud once said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

However, if you want to automatically interpret that picture you posted as some sort of racist derogatory thing despite having, I suspect, zero context..... well, you do you.

"Hey, look. That guy is pointing at his nose....."

And this is from someone who thinks Cousins is a POS.

This is one of the funniest posts I have ever seen.

I tend to agree. However, be careful. You're about to be labeled.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

I tend to agree. However, be careful. You're about to be labeled.

I'm not sure what a "big nose gesture" is, but I watched this seven-minute video and there's no kind of gesture at all. There is nothing anti-Semitic in this entire video, just a clown getting what he deserved:

Find me a timestamp of anything remotely resembling a "big nose gesture," and I'll change my tune.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

I guess the question is how exactly do they take up for the injured player? They’re basically required to represent the suspended player.

I think they should be educating players about concussions and CTE but for all I know that could already be happening.

Understood about representing the offending player and I acknowledged that necessity in my first post on the topic. That’s a situation where the player receives advocacy in a matter with the league.

I don’t know how the PA would advocate for an injured player against a reckless player who caused the injury. It just strikes me that on-ice behavior that is detrimental to a player would be something the PA would want to address.

 

[Number8]

f*** that. If you "tend to agree," you're just as bad as the other guy. I'm not sure what a "big nose gesture" is, but I watched this seven-minute video and there's no kind of gesture at all from Zucker. There is nothing anti-Semitic in this entire video, just a clown getting what he deserved:

Find me a timestamp of anything remotely resembling a "big nose gesture," and I'll change my tune.

Otherwise, this is just another example of the terrible, ugly underbelly of our society that invents things for the purpose of looking more empathetic and caring. You seriously can't get any lower on the hierarchy of quality human beings. Label me. I don't care. Anti-Semitism doesn't exist in this video and if there were any quality moderators on these boards, the guy would get a thread ban.

Wow. You are fired up. My post, if you'd read it, indicated that I thought calling a guy who points at his nose as "anti-semetic" was stupid. And I was just responding to the random picture he posted.

I don't know why the hell we are talking about anti-semitism and I don't care either.

Cousins is a piece of shit all on his own.

 

[Sheppy]

This took a turn

 

[ZJuice]

Sorry to disappoint. I feel similarly -- largely because of posts like yours. Freud once said that sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

However, if you want to automatically interpret that picture you posted as some sort of racist derogatory thing despite having, I suspect, zero context..... well, you do you.

"Hey, look. That guy is pointing at his nose....."

And this is from someone who thinks Cousins is a POS.


I tend to agree. However, be careful. You're about to be labeled.

You are now labelled as a person that lacks superior reading comprehension abilities. Nothing more or less.

I'm not sure what a "big nose gesture" is, but I watched this seven-minute video and there's no kind of gesture at all. There is nothing anti-Semitic in this entire video, just a clown getting what he deserved:

Find me a timestamp of anything remotely resembling a "big nose gesture," and I'll change my tune.

I don't see anyone in there with a Predators jersey either. I'm speaking on Cousins' history and adding extra context to why I am happy his brains got a slight scrambling.

I was trying to say Cousins was likely ignorant to any meaning beyond that of "haha big nose" to his gesture.. But both of you geniuses missed that and put words in my mouth.

Cousins is a piece of shit.

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

You are now labelled as a person that lacks superior reading comprehension abilities. Nothing more or less.


I don't see anyone in there with a Predators jersey either. I'm speaking on Cousins' history and adding extra context to why I am happy his brains got a slight scrambling.

I was trying to say Cousins was likely ignorant to any meaning beyond that of "haha big nose" to his gesture.. But both of you geniuses missed that and put words in my mouth.

Cousins is a piece of shit.

You're right. You caught me. I didn't read far enough back in the thread to fully understand what you were saying. I didn't realize you had proof of Nick Cousins touching his nose in a game sometime between 2-4 years ago. Thank you for presenting this evidence. I hope I'm ok in my next beer league game. I probably touched my nose a good dozen times just this morning. :-(

Your "context" is nonsense.

Cousins is a piece of shit on the ice. And you're playing pretend.

 

[Stephen]

Nick Cousins has generated so much hate and retaliatory moments he's going to turn into veal parm before the playoffs even start.

 

[DearDiary]

He did a big nose gesture to a known Jewish player. I added that Cousins is probably ignorant to the antisemitic meaning behind the gesture

What is the ethnicity list of people whose nose; players aren't allowed to make fun of? What other body parts should we be aware of?

Cousins saw a player with a nose he didn't like and told them so. There's nothing more to it.

 

[Mad Dog Tannen]

Do we want teammates, who might not even have seen the hit just the result ... to decide what is a good hit or bad hit?

HF - I hate when guys have to fight after a clean hit.
Also HF - he should get a medal for blindside slamming his head into the glass putting that guy in concussion protocol .. and its totally justified bc his teammate "perceived" it as a dirty hit

HF - he could have caused serious brain damage with that hit
Also HF - Im so happy Cousins is in concussion protocol with a brain injury!

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So now the precedent is a teammate can slam an opposing players head into the glass IF he perceives a hit to be dirty

Even if the replay shows the hit wasnt dirty but unfortunate

just trying to keep up with all the moving lines

I hope he does it again to cousins first game against the panthers - just in case cousins has a bad memory

 

[Ace Card Bedard]

Cousins deserved it.
Zucker has a well-earned rest. Maybe he can go to the Bahamas for a few days and soak up the sun.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

So Brad Marchand is jewish?

 

[Ratsreign]

You've been pretty reasonable in this thread so far, but here you've let your homer glasses get the best of you. Valimaki using the largest part of his body to keep the puck in the zone. Since he's a defenseman, if it slips past his legs along the boards, there's a potential 2-on-1 the other way.

And I'm not the Coyotes fan in here commenting that Cousins hit was dirty. Everyone needs to watch the replay in actual speed, and see how fast both Valimaki's "incredibly stupid move" and Cousins' "reckless hit to the head" occurred. Both were normal hockey plays.

I get what he was trying to do, and it is a normal hockey play to try and keep puck in the zone by going down to block it. But doing it when he did wasn’t very smart, you can’t do that when someone is a few feet away coming right at you to challenge for that puck coming up the wall. I’d love to see more respect shown between players when it comes to boarding plays and hits from behind, but rule number 1 is still to protect yourself at all times. After all, there are guys like Cousins out there who can’t be relied on to always do the right thing.