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Confirmed with Link: Zetterlund, Robins, 4th to Ottawa for 2025 2nd, Zack Ostapchuk, Noah Gregor

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Gecklund said:
The positive of this trade: I now have 4 sharks young guys in my keeper league that I can offer to @Kcoyote3 for a ransom. The negative: I will miss that tomato faced bandit I have come to love in Fabian Zetterlund
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Is it the league where I have McJesus?

Cause he's not for sale!
 
Hodge said:
It's just not that hard to replace Zetterlund's production in free agency and it's certainly not hard to replace his defensive impact.

Signing like Reilly Smith to a 1-2 year contract as a bridge to Chernyshov makes more sense in the long run than signing Zetterlund to a contract that would drive his trade value even lower than it is now.
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Yeah because Reilly worked out so well in Pitts and NY.

You know why he didn't? Because he didn't want to be there.

You're advocating for signing mercenaries, who will ultimately be asking for pretty much similar money regardless.
 
Hodge said:
It's just not that hard to replace Zetterlund's production in free agency and it's certainly not hard to replace his defensive impact.

Signing like Reilly Smith to a 1-2 year contract as a bridge to Chernyshov makes more sense in the long run than signing Zetterlund to a contract that would drive his trade value even lower than it is now.
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I just don’t understand why trade him for garbage? This is a garbage return. He was dedicated to the team, a great scorer and a perfect eventual 3rd liner on a cup team. He competes, great in the locker room… it just feels like a completely useless trade. If we got a defenseman, fine, but a 4th liner? Why the hell do we need that?
 
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Hodge said:
He's collecting assets because we're still in the accumulation stage of the rebuild.
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What exactly did he accumulate here? Another bottom 6 player who's proven nothing in the NHL? Maybe he can be another Zadina. Is there really that huge a difference between a mid 2nd and the top pick in the 4th? It's all a crapshoot after the first anyways.
 
mogambomoroo said:
This was a terrible deal, I have no idea what went behind thought process on this one... Also him being Eklund's best friends makes this even worse... He was one of the few players that showed interest to stay here and that is valuable. MG takes a giant hit with this one.
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My only guess is that the pick gives him the flexibility to move up in the draft or get a 2nd pairing caliber defenseman. We'll see. I would've only moved Zetterlund for a defenseman but this might just be the roundabout way to do that.
 
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Jargon said:
I just don’t understand why trade him for garbage? This is a garbage return. He was dedicated to the team, a great scorer and a perfect eventual 3rd liner on a cup team. He competes, great in the locker room… it just feels like a completely useless trade. If we got a defenseman, fine, but a 4th liner? Why the hell do we need that?
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Presumably this was the best offer on the table so the options were 1) accept it 2) sign Zetterlund to a bloated extension that would hurt his trade value even further 3) risk arbitration. They also clearly don't see Ostapchuk or the 2nd as garbage. Maybe they're wrong - I certainly don't place much value on the 2nd (especially since we had to send them a 4th) - but Ostapchuk likely still has a few more years of growth left in him and he's 4 years closer in age to the core than Zetts.
 
TheBeard said:
What exactly did he accumulate here? Another bottom 6 player who's proven nothing in the NHL? Maybe he can be another Zadina. Is there really that huge a difference between a mid 2nd and the top pick in the 4th? It's all a crapshoot after the first anyways.
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I'm with you on not loving this deal, but the second round is about the only other round with any obvious difference from the rest. If 90% of value comes from round 1, 5% comes from round 2 and the rest is the rest.
 
Pinkfloyd said:
My only guess is that the pick gives him the flexibility to move up in the draft or get a 2nd pairing caliber defenseman. We'll see. I would've only moved Zetterlund for a defenseman but this might just be the roundabout way to do that.
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Like maybe, maybe, maybe there’s been talks with some teams (NJD for Nemec or whatever) where they told him what assets they’d want to do a trade this summer and he’s out there collecting said assets but that feels like a reach.

We’ll see what he does this summer but it better be a big one.
 
coooldude said:
I'm with you on not loving this deal, but the second round is about the only other round with any obvious difference from the rest. If 90% of value comes from round 1, 5% comes from round 2 and the rest is the rest.
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I imagine he's planning on using his plethora of draft picks to bring in someone in the offseason that's closer to ready.

If not, I'm bewildered by his hesitance to bring in players with risk.
 
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Hodge said:
Presumably this was the best offer on the table so the options were 1) accept it 2) sign Zetterlund to a bloated extension that would hurt his trade value even further 3) risk arbitration. They also clearly don't see Ostapchuk or the 2nd as garbage. Maybe they're wrong - I certainly don't place much value on the 2nd (especially since we had to send them a 4th) - but Ostapchuk likely still has a few more years of growth left in him and he's 4 years closer in age to the core than Zetts.
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Or... wait to trade him in the offseason. This return wasn't so good that this trade just had to happen now.
 
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Hodge said:
Presumably this was the best offer on the table so the options were 1) accept it 2) sign Zetterlund to a bloated extension that would hurt his trade value even further 3) risk arbitration. They also clearly don't see Ostapchuk or the 2nd as garbage. Maybe they're wrong - I certainly don't place much value on the 2nd (especially since we had to send them a 4th) - but Ostapchuk likely still has a few more years of growth left in him and he's 4 years closer in age to the core than Zetts.
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If Ostapchuk comes in and suddenly performs as a high end 3C or something, I’ll gladly eat crow and praise the Sharks scouting guys. Right now, on its face, this deal likes awful. Being afraid to re-sign Zetterlund to a pricier deal when we literally need to sign guys to get to the floor is insane.
 
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TheBeard said:
What exactly did he accumulate here? Another bottom 6 player who's proven nothing in the NHL? Maybe he can be another Zadina. Is there really that huge a difference between a mid 2nd and the top pick in the 4th? It's all a crapshoot after the first anyways.
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Ostapchuk is nothing like Zadina. He could develop into a better version of Sturm. There isn't a massive difference between the picks but it's upgrading the odds of the lottery ticket. Stack enough of them together and you'll eventually find a player. This is more helpful to the rebuild than overpaying Zetterlund to score on a bad team before trying to trade him down the line with 4x the cap hit would be.
 
wickedwitch said:
Or... wait to trade him in the offseason. This return wasn't so good that this trade just had to happen now.
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Every other team also knows he has a strong arb case. His RFA rights would have certainly fetched less than this. Even if Ottawa can't come to terms on a contract they're getting a playoff push and potentially a playoff run out of him.
 
Hodge said:
Ostapchuk is nothing like Zadina. He could develop into a better version of Sturm. There isn't a massive difference between the picks but it's upgrading the odds of the lottery ticket. Stack enough of them together and you'll eventually find a player. This is more helpful to the rebuild than overpaying Zetterlund to score on a bad team before trying to trade him down the line with 4x the cap hit would be.
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Why do you need to trade him? Sign him and have him be as a fixture on your 3rd line who can move up in case of injuries. He is worth way more than a guy who might maybe sorta be Sturm, maybe.
 
Jargon said:
If Ostapchuk comes in and suddenly performs as a high end 3C or something, I’ll gladly eat crow and praise the Sharks scouting guys. Right now, on its face, this deal likes awful. Being afraid to re-sign Zetterlund to a pricier deal when we literally need to sign guys to get to the floor is insane.
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Also insane when we have two of the worst contracts in the league relative to production on ice in Vlasic and Goodrow. What the f*** are we afraid of? That Zetterlund is somehow going to be worse value than them?
 
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Hodge said:
Ostapchuk is nothing like Zadina. He could develop into a better version of Sturm. There isn't a massive difference between the picks but it's upgrading the odds of the lottery ticket. Stack enough of them together and you'll eventually find a player. This is more helpful to the rebuild than overpaying Zetterlund to score on a bad team before trying to trade him down the line with 4x the cap hit would be.
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Since the Vlasic draft of 2005, the only sharks 2nd rounders that have "hit" have been Ferraro, Nieto and Tierney. Excuse me if I don't share the same assumption that we'll eventually find a player. Even if we do, the chances of any 2nd rounder from here on out hitting won't be known until 2028-29 at the earliest.
 
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