Confirmed with Link: Zetterlund, Robins, 4th to Ottawa for 2025 2nd, Zack Ostapchuk, Noah Gregor

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Well they did have to trade him right now because it was the trade deadline. What would be the point of keeping him with no intention of negotiating a new contract? His RFA rights would certainly be worth less than this package.
Because we either get him for 4.5M, or we get 1st + 3rd for him which is more then we got. You can't claim money is no issue when we are paying Goodrow 4M a season to be the worst forward on the team, while getting rid of one of our better forwards because 5M might have been too high.
 
Smith + Mack + Eklund

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Igor Chernyshov 6'3 225lbs
Kasper Halttunen 6'3 210lbs
Zack Ostapchuk 6'4 215lbs
Quentin Musty 6'2 205lbs
Filip Bystedt 6'4 215lbs


Can Grier resist 6'3 Porter Martone at #2?
I think of we drop to 3rd, that it's a given
 
Because we either get him for 4.5M, or we get 1st + 3rd for him which is more then we got. You can't claim money is no issue when we are paying Goodrow 4M a season to be the worst forward on the team, while getting rid of one of our better forwards because 5M might have been too high.
We only get a 1st + 3rd for him if a team is stupid enough to sign a 45 point winger to a top-tier offer sheet. Why would anyone do that when they can just sign a similar player of a similar age in free agency without giving up any assets?
 
We only get a 1st + 3rd for him if a team is stupid enough to sign a 45 point winger to a top-tier offer sheet. Why would anyone do that when they can just sign a similar player of a similar age in free agency without giving up any assets?
Soooo we keep him for less than 5M per year? Sounds like a good deal for us.
 
Grier's pro scouting has largely been on point. Ostapchuk is probably better than the numbers indicate. Remember that he and his front office are the ones who targeted Zetterlund in the first place when most people on this board wanted Alex Holtz in that trade.
Literally nobody wanted Holtz. He was in every trade proposal by Devils fans.
 
Soooo we keep him for less than 5M per year? Sounds like a good deal for us.
No, his agent would have taken us to arbitration and likely gotten a bigger award than that which immediately tanks Zetterlund's trade value relative to moving him on a 1.5M cap hit.
 
Grier's pro scouting has largely been on point. Ostapchuk is probably better than the numbers indicate. Remember that he and his front office are the ones who targeted Zetterlund in the first place when most people on this board wanted Alex Holtz in that trade.
Luke Kunin and Barclay Goodrow played on this team, the pro scouting is easily the worst aspect of his management
 
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We only get a 1st + 3rd for him if a team is stupid enough to sign a 45 point winger to a top-tier offer sheet. Why would anyone do that when they can just sign a similar player of a similar age in free agency without giving up any assets?
There's about 50 wingers on pace for 45 points this season. How many do you think are going to be available for free?
 
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I'm just trying to figure out why are MG & co doing such a moves right now? I understand getting value out of UFA's or even a Walman bringing 1st is reasonable, but to trade a good young RFA player that has a perfect chemistry with the group (Eklund BF) and wanted to be a part of the future... I just don't get it. He was one of those pieces that made Sharks fans proud that Meier deal went the way it went.
I'm talking as a fan of the team, this trade made no sense culture wise. Someone pointed out, if the return was a top 4 defencemen go for it. But only rebuild, rebuild, rebuild... But you still need pieces that stay here and want to make a difference. What's the message behind this to the locker room? What are we doing? Are we counting on a big trade in the summer or a big free agent, I wouldn't.
 
Luke Kunin and Barclay Goodrow played on this team, the pro scouting is easily the worst aspect of his management
Sure, if you ignore Toffoli, Wennberg, Blackwood, Granlund, Zetterlund, Mukhamadullin, Eyssimont, Emberson, Sturm, Lorentz, even Liljegren and Thompson are starting to turn it around. He's had misses just like every other GM but they've been few and far between.
 
I'm not going to try to defend this trade because I don't like it, but I'm trying to get in Grier's head to understand what he might be thinking--and thanks to the Sens fans who have offered input on Ostapchuk which aids in this process.

So I think when we look at the future of this team, we mostly agree that Zetterlund ideally would've been a 3rd liner in a few years. Even if the contract for him as a 3rd liner wouldn't be something we could overcome if it's like four or five years, I guess the question Grier may have asked is if Zetterlund would've been the kind of guy he wants on that 3rd line in a few years--whereas he might be betting that Ostapchuk will be more to his liking.

The issues with Zetterlund in that role are that he isn't really a play-driver, so playing with less-talented linemates his offense might fall off a decent amount (let's say more to 15+15). At the same time, I don't think he's a particularly good defensive forward. I'm not looking at the numbers on this now, but it's more just from watching games and often being surprised that he's the guy that's out of position, or that he's often involved in desperate puck-chasing situations.

The fact that he's never on the PK maybe validates this a bit (because his tools seemingly should put him in that role) and also lowers his value to Grier as a future 3rd liner, whereas what we've heard about Ostapchuk says that he should have all those attributes (plus added physicality); it's just a question of whether or not he can elevate his offense more toward that 30 point level down the line.

The second round pick is good insurance in taking that gamble. Because it is a gamble. I'm sure Grier knows that. But I suppose he sees the team at this point as still being at a stage where he can take such a gamble. (That does ignore the human side of things, though, and that's a gamble of a different sort--although one that doesn't always end up mattering.)
 

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