Proposal: Your LHD for Trouba

[Saidin]

Another thread is complete! Hero Charts for everyone! You got a chart, you get a chart and YOU get a charT!!!

 

[irunthepeg]

Rebuttal?

Gardiner really "blows Trouba out of the water" with that comparison. I'm perfectly fine saying Gardiner is a good defenseman and the Jets are for sure trading Trouba, then I'm fine if Gardiner is the return. I wasn't denying he had stats, I just won't let someone say they've got them without providing anything when trying to use that in an argument.

Also, who were Gardiner's d-partners for most of the year? Cause Trouba spent a majority of the year anchored down by one Mark Stuart.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

Trouba
Dano


For

McDouagh

 

[Halla]

Gardiner really "blows Trouba out of the water" with that comparison. I'm perfectly fine saying Gardiner is a good defenseman and the Jets are for sure trading Trouba, then I'm fine if Gardiner is the return. I wasn't denying he had stats, I just won't let someone say they've got them without providing anything when trying to use that in an argument.

Also, who were Gardiner's d-partners for most of the year? Cause Trouba spent a majority of the year anchored down by one Mark Stuart.

Polak, Corrado...yeah it wasnt pretty.
Gardiner usually gets to carry his d partner. Hopefully he gets paired with zaitsev, a guy that can actually play

 

[Halla]

Trouba
Dano


For

McDouagh

rangers probably laugh at this. Trouba + Connor would be closer

 

[Halla]

Another thread is complete! Hero Charts for everyone! You got a chart, you get a chart and YOU get a charT!!!

rule #1: Hero charts can't be used to break the bias of non leafs fans

nice to see Gardiner finally getting recognition that he is a legit top 3 dman. possesion and shot supression off the charts. he cut back on the boneheaded giveways a lot under babcock last year. #coaching

 

[irunthepeg]

Polak, Corrado...yeah it wasnt pretty.
Gardiner usually gets to carry his d partner. Hopefully he gets paired with zaitsev, a guy that can actually play

Ah okay, so similar situation. I wouldn't say that chart blows Trouba out of the water but it does reflect better on him than Trouba.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Is something around Edler and Trouba a good basis for a deal?? Top pairing LHD for Up and coming RHD?

 

[Paradise*]

rangers probably laugh at this. Trouba + Connor would be closer

Connor as a throw in. Terrible evaluation

 

[Matthews34]

JvR & Gardiner for Trouba & 2nd

 

[Paradise*]

Is something around Edler and Trouba a good basis for a deal?? Top pairing LHD for Up and coming RHD?

No thanks. Not the LD we'd be looking for.

 

[Hunter368]

Is something around Edler and Trouba a good basis for a deal?? Top pairing LHD for Up and coming RHD?

Zero interest in a 30 year old Edler as a return on a 22 year Trouba. Easy pass

 

[zcaptain]

Zero interest in a 30 year old Edler as a return on a 22 year Trouba. Easy pass

I understand not wanting to give up youth and potential, but weighing out just talent............Edler>Trouba........but that only sets me up for my next offer, which is...............

Tanev + for Trouba and Winnipegs 20171st

The question for me is what is the plus?

Hansen? 2018 2nd? Etem? Jordan Subban? Nothing?

Personally, if I am Winnipeg, I take Tanev and Hansen for Trouba and 2017 1st and run!

 

[Maukkis]

I understand not wanting to give up youth and potential, but weighing out just talent............Edler>Trouba........but that only sets me up for my next offer, which is...............

Tanev + for Trouba and Winnipegs 20171st

The question for me is what is the plus?

Hansen? 2018 2nd? Etem? Jordan Subban? Nothing?

Personally, if I am Winnipeg, I take Tanev and Hansen for Trouba and 2017 1st and run!

If Tanev was a LHD, I'd do a straight up deal, possibly even add a little. But a first on top of Trouba is horrible.

 

[LV*]

Ah okay, so similar situation. I wouldn't say that chart blows Trouba out of the water but it does reflect better on him than Trouba.

They kinda do blow him out of the water when you consider everyone in this thread is saying Trouba >>>> Gardiner. I guess he's better at putting more shots on net, thats why hes better I guess.

I offered Gardiner + 2nd + Loov for Trouba earlier in the thread, not insulting him at all. It is a fact that Jake Gardiner is a better NHL defenseman than Jacob Trouba, I am willing to overpay for the potential Trouba possesses and his right handed shot.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

the relative numbers are going to boost gardiner alot more easily than they will trouba, since gardiner has been on a terrible team

 

[Russian Factor]

Olli Maatta + Tom Kuhnhackl + MA Fleury

for

Jacob Trouba + Marko Dano + Onjrej Pavelec

 

[Paradise*]

Olli Maatta + Tom Kuhnhackl + MA Fleury

for

Jacob Trouba + Marko Dano + Onjrej Pavelec

Not at all.

 

[Russian Factor]

Not at all.

What do you mean friend

 

[robertocarlos]

Olli Maatta + Tom Kuhnhackl + MA Fleury

for

Jacob Trouba + Marko Dano + Onjrej Pavelec

Murray rhymes with Fleury. It was confusing during the playoffs.

 

[Maukkis]

What do you mean friend

First off, Fleury is an absolute no go for the same reason you want to trade him. Secondly, we give up two better pieces in Dano and Trouba for Määttä and Kuhnhackl. And obviously, we are taking on cap here, which we won't do. Just doesn't make any sense.

 

[Jets]

What about
Dekeyser + Hicketts
for
Trouba + mid pick

 

[Russian Factor]

First off, Fleury is an absolute no go for the same reason you want to trade him. Secondly, we give up two better pieces in Dano and Trouba for Määttä and Kuhnhackl. And obviously, we are taking on cap here, which we won't do. Just doesn't make any sense.

See, this is confusing to me. The whole reason I 'wanted to trade him' aka put him in this hypothetical deal was to *offset* the disparities of Trouba/Dano vs the Pens pieces. So I don't think I know what you have in mind about what I have in mind when I'm wanting to trade Marc Andre Fleury.

 

[Vatican Roulette]

What about
Dekeyser + Hicketts
for
Trouba + mid pick

Pronman fan?

 

[Sundinisagod]

From the Leafs, I would be willing to offer up Gardiner + Valiev + 2nd round pick. I'd go as far as swapping Valiev and the 2nd for a lotto protected 1st if need be.

Would love a top pairing of Rielly - Trouba for the next 10 years.