Proposal: Would you trade Stutzle for Matthews?

[jbeck5]

Id say the previous 3 seasons (before this one) were definitely better than Stutzle this season

Depends if you see Mattnews this year as his norm or not


Even if he does re-sign you're looking at a ~$5M dollar difference in cap hits

Stutzle wasn't in the NHL 3 seasons before his 3rd NHL season...

Nevermind if Matthews is the norm...did you think stutzle in his rookie or sophomore year would be his norm?

 

[Silky Johnson]

No GM in the league is trading away a 21 year old signed for 7 more years who is a PPG+ player for 1 year of Auston Matthews. Literally no one.





Literally.



No. One.

Agree.



But it's 8 years.




He is still on his ELC this season.






Literally.

 

[CanadienShark]

Nope. Stutzle is signed too long at a good contract to give up. Matthews is going to cost like 4-5m more soon. That's huge.

 

[keglu]

Obviously not
Let assue Matthews produce 10-20% more and that even is not guarantee, his cap his is expected to be 50%+ higher
And of top of that you can expect to Stutzle to produce on high level for 4 more years because of age difference.
Stutzle/Hughes are arguably most valuable forward assets in NHL behind McDavid.

 

[mattihp]

Matthews is the better player, pants down. I'd still take Stützle.

 

[Bruce Granville]

Why? Is Stützle done, too?

 

[General Fanager]

I think I would take Stuz and enjoy the extra 5-7 million of cap space by not having Matthews and his new deal.....


not counting the cap at all, id take Matthews obviously.....

 

[BradyTkachucky]

Matthews is the better player, pants down. I'd still take Stützle.

I haven't seen him play with his pants down, but with his pants up he's an incredible hockey player.

 

[DomBarr]

No and its entirely location related. There is NO way that Matthews would extend in Ottawa for that matter anywhere in Canada except Toronto. So its giving up 8 yrs of a homegrown topline center who is still developing and fits with what the Sens are trying to accomplish for 1 year of a top 5 center.

 

[mattihp]

I haven't seen him play with his pants down, but with his pants up he's an incredible hockey player.

 

[ER89]

He's quite obviously trolling leafs fans on Twitter. He occasionally does that. He intentionally made those mistakes.

Is he intentionally stupid as well or is that the result of too many headshots ala kypreos

 

[Xspyrit]

At the same salary and term. Yes.
Also since Matthews plays center I probably do it anyway

Stutzle doesn't play Center?

 

[Golden_Jet]

At the same salary and term. Yes.
Also since Matthews plays center I probably do it anyway

Did Stutzle get moved back to the wing. Hadn’t noticed that the last 2 years.

 

[McVespa99]

Matthews is going to get 14 million his next contract because Dubas, and American players generally get overpaid to play in Canada. Stutzle is close enough to him IMO that its not even a close call. I take Stutzle at 8+ over Matthews at 13+ all day. So no. I wouldnt trade Stutzle for Matthews even if Matthews was signed for another 8 years.

Is his Ceiling as high as Matthews' though? Maybe I'm wrong but I consider Matthews's season this year to be more of an anomaly than the norm. His past 3 seasons were pretty consistent as far as his pace is concerned. I expect him to rebound next year

If this word has to be used every time for years when describing a player there is a problem

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Would I trade the rookie of the year, 2X rocket winner, MVP and Ted Lindsay award winner for Tim Stutzle?

No chance.

 

[Freudian]

No, but mostly because of salary, age and cost to keep around.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Stutzle's age and contract tip this to him, even if Matthews is arguably the better player.

It's not arguable Matthews is the better player.

 

[blundluntman]

Matthews is going to get 14 million his next contract because Dubas, and American players generally get overpaid to play in Canada. Stutzle is close enough to him IMO that its not even a close call. I take Stutzle at 8+ over Matthews at 13+ all day. So no. I wouldnt trade Stutzle for Matthews even if Matthews was signed for another 8 years.


If this word has to be used every time for years when describing a player there is a problem

I get the argument as far as contracts go so no need for discussion there. I'm simply asking whether Stutzle is as good as Matthews given the fact that they're being compared

Pace doesn't have to be used constantly considering he outscored players regardless of his pace. My point is that he scores points at a higher level and is an efficient player. Injuries and shortages (due to covid) happen which affects totals, but the quality of play is reflected in pace relative to 82 games. He won a hart and 2 richards (and was 1 goal away from a 3rd) regardless of pace so it's not a useless talking point.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Inspiration:



Stutzle: Just turned 21, signed for 8 more years at 8.35 AAV.

31G - 35A - 66P (23PPP) - 59 GP

Matthews: 25 years old, signed for 1 more year at 11.64 AAV.

29G - 33A - 62P (21PPP) - 57 GP

Stutzle plus what?

You kinda left out all the hardware.

 

[K1900L]

Stützle has 97 points in the last 82 games he has played, and he also has a good two way game and plays on the pk constantly. He just turned 21 2 months ago.
So even ignoring the contract there is an argument for taking Stützle over Matthews, especially considering age.

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

That depends. Is the purse and wardrobe included?

 

[TheGroceryStick]

That depends. Is the purse and wardrobe included?

Don't talk about Bieber like that!

 

[Davo Ikinzom]

Don't talk about Bieber like that!

Oh man, I forgot that guy is included in the trade. The deal is off!

 

[dj Mahoney]

Paying a player as much as Mathews gets without any playoff success at all gets people fired .

 

[Golden_Jet]

Stutzle plus what?

You kinda left out all the hardware.

Stutzle plus Chychurn next year would equal Matthew’s next contract.