There's nothing laughable about not being sure someone that's just over a ppg will eventually become better than a 60 goal scorer that was pacing for 118 points. That's literally being reasonable. If he does become that good, great. But not thinking it's guaranteed is rational.
There is a slight difference between pace and actual points accumulated in a single season.
You do realize scoring has been increasing quite a bit over the past 7 years right? For Matthews first 3 years only 4 or 5 players scored 100 points. This year alone exceeds that amount and last year on it's own did as well. That makes a huge difference when comparing players' scoring paces. And even so, Stutzle hasn't reached the level Matthews did last year so there's no guarantee... Are you guys literally ignoring that on purpose or something??
Well there was no guarantee that matthew was going to hit that level but he did 3 seasons later and now seems to be tracking the other direction. It seems Stutzle is going in that same direction on the upside unless YOU think Stutzle has hit his peak which would be ...what is that word you used.... laughable
He's been basically a 50 goal scorer for 3 seasons before this one where he's been slowed down by injuries. It's reasonable to assume this isn't the norm. Stutzle could likely reach 100 point calibre which i already admitted. That's good but not as good as Matthews was last season. By that logic, Matthew Tkacuk had just as much of a claim to the Hart as McDavid and Matthews. I literally never said he's hit his peak, I said idk if he'll peak at the same level as Matthews. There's nothing laughable about being unsure where a player peaks and choosing the player that's already won a Hart and richard trophy. If you wanna talk contracts then sure, there's an argument. As far as quality of play, I'm not convinced. Stop being dense.
Still a PPG player in his next season then. Not exactly a slacking season. Let’s also compare teammates for this season for Matthews and who Ovechkin had at the same age. Big difference.
I’m not playing your move the goalposts game. I just chimed in to say your post facts were wrong before. Also this isn’t an OV thread.
So if both were signed at the same cap hit for same amount of years let’s say both have 8 years at 5 mil per. I think you’d be crazy to not take Mathews. He’s having a awful season but he has a strong case for being the best goal scorer in the NHL while being a selke candidate I honestly can’t see how he’s not top 3 this year. Obviously age is a factor and Stutzle is a really good 2 way player as well but I just don’t see Stutzle at his very best every being better then Mathews at his very best. Personally not putting down Stutzle because I believe he is already close to being a top 20 hockey player if not already but Mathews is already top 5 and has a case for number 2
Matthews isnt a Selke candidate. He's not even in the top 10. He has no case for being the 2nd best player in the league either. Stop exaggerating.
He’s leading the league in BLKs for forwards, he’s elite in the draw, he’s top 10 in the nhl for takeaways for forwards, he’s + 27, etc this is while missing almost 10 games from injuries
He's not even in the top 10 in Dom's rankings. Zero faults is an exaggeration.
I’d respectfully ask that you’d show some supporting figures for your argument. I’d imagine that it’ll be very cherry picked.
I’d like to see how those players compare to Mathews because as a leafs fan I’d say hes definitely better defensively then Marner
He’s better then Marner defensively. He just played less games
Wouldn't he be making spelling mistakes on other words? You're getting trolled by methot lol why make it so easy.
