GWT: World Cup - Group F (Morocco and Croatia Advance)

Who Advances?

  • Belgium

    Votes: 72 69.2%
  • Croatia

    Votes: 70 67.3%
  • Morocco

    Votes: 24 23.1%
  • Canada

    Votes: 33 31.7%

  • Total voters
    104

Pink Mist

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I think some of you don't really understand the expectations of Canada going into this world cup. We weren't expected to make it so just scoring and having a solid performance against Belgium is enough to meet expectations for this team.

I'm not going to attack Herdman too much over a loss to Croatia considering a draw against them would be good and lucky result. He is the father of Canadian soccer and built both the women and the men's program from the ground up and deserves a ton of credit for making us a respectable team
 

Moncherry

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I'm starting to dislike Herdman. He used to be cool and he's certainly helped turn the team in the right direction, but his behaviour in this World Cup and how he's handled team Canada itself in this World Cup has been bizarre. Not using David for the PK against Belgium was mind boggling, then putting unnecessary pressure on Canada while simultaneously giving Croatia extra motivation through his moronic disrespectful comments were really stupid things for him to do.
Herdman had nothing to do with who took the penalty, Davies grabbed the ball right away. Unless he specifically made him the designated penalty taker, which I doubt.
 
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John Price

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Sep 19, 2008
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Oh no, Herdman was pissed off and didn't feel like kissing the Croatian coaches ass, how dare he.
Him doing it is fine but he didn't back it up.

Maybe he shouldn't have just flat out said during the post game conference "F Croatia" :laugh:

Herdman, it seems like, got high on his own supply here. The year long fellatio he's been receiving from Canadian media made him feel like he could do no wrong. This WC will humble the living crap out of him.
It's not like he's new to the WC either he coached the women's side well. How does he make such a big mistake by saying "F Croatia"
 

cgf

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You inadvertently demonstrated why it’s ridiculous to be so up in arms over the comment. If your equivalent scenario happened I might have a modest chuckle at the earnestness of the (in this imaginative scenario) Croatian comments and be happy they’ve embraced the sport and are amped up to hopefully make a good account of themselves in the tournament.

To still be salty over this even post game borders on the absurd lol.

You know full well that TSN would have an hour-long special about how disrespectful croatia was being.
 

N o o d l e s

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I think some of you don't really understand the expectations of Canada going into this world cup. We weren't expected to make it so just scoring and having a solid performance against Belgium is enough to meet expectations for this team.

I'm not going to attack Herdman too much over a loss to Croatia considering a draw against them would be good and lucky result. He is the father of Canadian soccer and built both the women and the men's program from the ground up and deserves a ton of credit for making us a respectable team

I think 33 posters on this board didn’t understand their own expectations
 

Spring in Fialta

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I think some of you don't really understand the expectations of Canada going into this world cup. We weren't expected to make it so just scoring and having a solid performance against Belgium is enough to meet expectations for this team.

I'm not going to attack Herdman too much over a loss to Croatia considering a draw against them would be good and lucky result. He is the father of Canadian soccer and built both the women and the men's program from the ground up and deserves a ton of credit for making us a respectable team

100% but OTOH, some of the decisions he's made during the WC are brutal (not even talking about the hot mic here which as an honest mistake though he should have deflected when asked). Only wanting to sub Hutchinson at the 55th and then keeping him on because the players want to when the game is 2-1 and Hutchinson is getting utterly abused out there is...Jesus Christ, that's bad. As it not game-planning for Davies not to be the one taking a PK if one is awarded (in such high stakes with such a squad, don't let the players decide).

It seeems like he coached to be friends instead of to win.

Herdman had nothing to do with who took the penalty, Davies grabbed the ball right away. Unless he specifically made him the designated penalty taker, which I doubt.

That he had nothing to do with it is a mistake in and of itself. It seems like the team bowed to Davies because he's the best overall player instead of the best bet to take a PK.
 

Islesfan22

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I think some of you don't really understand the expectations of Canada going into this world cup. We weren't expected to make it so just scoring and having a solid performance against Belgium is enough to meet expectations for this team.

I'm not going to attack Herdman too much over a loss to Croatia considering a draw against them would be good and lucky result. He is the father of Canadian soccer and built both the women and the men's program from the ground up and deserves a ton of credit for making us a respectable team
The guy showed no respect for his opponent then would not shake the Croatian coach hand after the game. No class!
 
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PanniniClaus

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The guy showed no respect for his opponent then would not shake the Croatian coach hand after the game. No class!
I love Herdman... love...

I do think he should have found Dalic and congratulated him. Maybe there is more to the story... I know the Borjan thing is rumbling around out there and maybe there is something else.

Just proud of the boys... nothing but proud.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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This Herdman story is so stupid.

Who cares what he said before the game? He's trying to motivate his team. They lost. Leave it there.

Do you know how many people predict wins for their team and their team loses? Happens so often and few have it shoved right in their face that they lost.

Croatia should shut up and be gracious. They got to the last World Cup final. Beating a Canada team eliminated after two games should not be viewed as a big achievement for them.
 
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S E P H

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Also, very impressed by Buchanan for Canada. Surprised he's a winger because I think he plays with a ton of bite in his game that you'd like to see with a midfielder. Not sure he has the finishing or crossing skills considering his stats, but I would totally buy him to be a CM or RCM.
 
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Evilo

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KdB has a new record for turnovers (27) in a XXI century WC game this year. He's one turnover short of the alltime record (28) hold by.... De Bruyne himself (vs France 2018).
 
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Islesfan22

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This Herdman story is so stupid.

Who cares what he said before the game? He's trying to motivate his team. They lost. Leave it there.

Do you know how many people predict wins for their team and their team loses? Happens so often and few have it shoved right in their face that they lost.

Croatia should shut up and be gracious. They got to the last World Cup final. Beating a Canada team eliminated after two games should not be viewed as a big achievement for them.
Maybe the Canadian coach should show some respect to his opponent and not double down in his comment the next day. They got there ass kicked show some class and shake the coaches hand after the game. Classless prick!
 
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cgf

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Oceania is the weakest.

Technically correct, but since Australia left, Oceania isn't represented at the world cup. So do they really count in the context of a discussion about how various confederations will do at future world cups? IMO it's fair to say that in this context, it is between CONCACAF & AFC for weakest confederation.
 

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