Proposal: Win nyr
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Sorry to have missed that Enstrom is actually NMC, some reason I thought it was nTc.
Well the ball is in your court.
If ya really want McD, I believe it can be arranged, but like I said, there are more bidders for him than Trouba, due to current sweetheart contract and salary limitations.
If you refuse to take Staal, then I am forced to consider something with McD +++ to Canes for Hanifin ++, and get a younger LD who is ELC and thus exempt.
As for Staal, have to see if team like Detroit won't take him if we offer enough cap relief.
I'll give it til the weekend, after which I look at other options on McD.
stop trading the kids
esp when they have ELC and are exempted from draft
build, stop splurging
foolish win now now now now attitude is killing us
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Jets may not need Zuccarello, but he would immediately become the 4th best forward & has more value than Graves+a 1st. A Paul Maurice favourite, he's also signed for 3 seasons & would be able to be protected in a 7-3-1 scenario. I'd take Skeij & Zuccarello & watch the Jets eat up opposing teams for the next 3 years and hope Skeij continues his solid development.
Yes I'd rather get a premium LD. We all want that, but with Trouba trade request nearly 6 months ago I'm not holding my breath that this is gonna happen.
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No on moving Skjei, esp since he is a core piece as replacement for Staal and is ELC exempt
but
recognizing the back scratch of you working by taking one of our Fs, I could reciprocate as follows
Zuc and Holden
for
Trouba and Burmistrov
Holden is LD who can swing, for min $ now, cost us a 4th on a steal, arguably worth a bit more, is in his 20s, not too old, can play now w/vet experience, would likely be 2nd pair, in your current scenario, would 1LD until/if Morrissey emerges, is expiring I think and gives you first crack to check tires and extend
an extended Burmi would be worth more, but currently is expiring.
After his protest hiatus, not likely he would renew in 'peg esp on favorable hometown discount terms
Helps NY with moving Stepan, gives Rangers inside track if they take him, with Nieves next season
Maukkis
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Holden doesn't come close to replacing Trouba. You just don't seem to get it. McDonagh or bust.
This is a part of real life for both of us, and all who participate at the 'boards.
Perspective, yes.
As a Ranger fan who suffered under Slats Sather miscues last coupla years, I want to have an open competition of ideas that helps Gorton. Do not want AV going to Dolan and lying with some suggestion he has a better idea, about how if we only kick the can with this group, by eg taking on Eric Staal for multiple 2nds + prospects or some other stupidity, we can win the cup.
Open competition of ideas
crush win now mentality
actual max of resources
build
build
build
possible small splurge
dominate
... and after my detractors gave me hell until recently about we should not have extended Girardi and instead dealt him, yes, I want determination of what are best options, whether generated by me or others.
you didn't read the post
Holden is a sweetener if the core is Zuc
if the core is McD, you have to pay significantly more.
I am willing to entertain any and all reasonable scenarios
if you insist on not taking Staal, then show me something that is worth my while.
A nice F prospect coming here may work for you, but it doesn't for us
Under get it,
pls be reminded, politely and respectfully
that as noted previously,
because of expansion and cap
there are actually more potential bidders for McD than for Trouba
Given that, your offer does not not cut it.
I look forward to discussion of counteroffers this weekend
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you didn't read the post
Holden is a sweetener if the core is Zuc
if the core is McD, you have to pay significantly more.
I am willing to entertain any and all reasonable scenarios
if you insist on not taking Staal, then show me something that is worth my while.
A nice F prospect coming here may work for you, but it doesn't for us
Under get it,
pls be reminded, politely and respectfully
that as noted previously,
because of expansion and cap
there are actually more potential bidders for McD than for Trouba
Given that, your offer does not not cut it.
I look forward to discussion of counteroffers this weekend
Winger as a core = unacceptable. Zucc is not what we need.
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McDonagh is significantly better. Moving him for Trouba would be complete nonsense.
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lomiller1
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4th? Behind wheeler and who else?
Scheifele and Little are likely the ones he had in mind. TBH he may be behind Perrault as well, and Laine, Ehlers and Connor could all pass him in the near future. Zuccarello is a really good player but he just doesn’t help us a lot.
Loved Zuccarello anytime I've seen him in the playoffs. I'd definitely think hard about him being the main piece coming back for Trouba. Cost controlled first line calibre wing. Especially if Little is out for a while, Jets don't have TOO much offense. Things are looking up, but they are not an elite scoring team. Taking a great player like Zucc and finding a defensmean somewhere else (Fowler?) could work.
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I wouldn't mind Zucc and Skjei for trouba. Helps us now and likely in the future
this
Enstrom-buff
morriessy/skjei-myers
skjei/morriessy-potsma
that is a legit NHL defense going forward.. skjei obviously the main part of the trade with zuc as a huge plus. He gives a LW RW upgrade for the next 3 seasons, allows perrault to shift to 3rd line center while little is out.. Zuc on a line with laine would be dynamite and i believe this trade helps both teams. I think the jets are a playoff team after they make that trade
Enstrom-buff
morriessy/skjei-myers
skjei/morriessy-potsma
that is a legit NHL defense going forward.. skjei obviously the main part of the trade with zuc as a huge plus. He gives a LW RW upgrade for the next 3 seasons, allows perrault to shift to 3rd line center while little is out.. Zuc on a line with laine would be dynamite and i believe this trade helps both teams. I think the jets are a playoff team after they make that trade
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The Jets are not in a position to think short term like that. Best case for this year is they just barely make the playoffs, they are still 1 - 3 more years away from being a real contender, and even then only if they address their need on LHD.
no, not fair value, ny overpays, and can't afford to lose blue chip prospects, not to mention a first
no, it is definitely a vet, the only ? is if it is an F a la Zuc, or if it is McD
we can accommodate Maukkis
but he has to realize that due to player salary, exp draft and cap considerations, right now McD is way more marketable than Trouba, that includes performance issues
if McD
he has to come up with way better offer
NO Skjei
Holden
Gorton is smart enough to recognzie we no longer eat our young
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If we are giving up Zucc and Skjei, I'd want an add on Winnipeg's part.
I think Zuccarello has as much value or even more than Trouba, and thats before we add Skjei.
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I won't debate player value, but the main point is we need D as a return.....not so much a forward.Likely just look for another trade that main return is a D or young very good forward
