DraftSchmaft
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bruh they might as well give that goal to me then since I touched it the same amount Kase did. I demand that puck mailed and framed to my house.
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I wouldn't bet on that. Besides I think William's 31 goals and 28 assists in 68 games, is already better than Mckinnon's 24 goals and 39 assists in 82 games. But I know the argument, William may not have gotten 4 points in the extra 14 games.
Michael HOMERUNing
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Points aren't everything. This isn't a knock on Nylander. I think he's a borderline top 10 winger in the league. But MacKinnon was a generational talent from the moment he was drafted
I thought he was meh for his first 3 years, but ok.
Points are what most players are judged by.
Really overusing generational here. McDavid is generational, Crosby was generational. MacKinnon is a high-level first overall pick, similar to Matthews in that regard, but he was never generational.
Generational players are the type of players who enter the league, and you expect them to win multiple Hart trophies and they generally win one while still on their ELC's.
Mack only become or develop into the player he is today after the Avs traded away Duchense and ROR.
He told charge and never look back.
From what I read, he is taking care of his body by eating right and working hard.
He was never a generational talent but a very good first overall pick.
He told charge and never look back.
From what I read, he is taking care of his body by eating right and working hard.
He was never a generational talent but a very good first overall pick.
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Why is the Nylander thread about everything except Nylander.
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Wasn’t great today…oh well he’s been amazing for a month or so I expect him to bounce back next game
another guy who falls in to this category is brett hull i believe if i recall correctly... he could have played for canada or the states ... chose the states since he said he did not get an invite for canada
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Different titles same content it seems
SIMMONS SUNDAY - Nylander’s taking his game to the next level this season | Toronto Sun
William Nylander has never scored more than 31 goals in an NHL season, never scored more than 61 points in an 82-game season — and all that appears to be changing before our very eyes.
This is the enigmatic Nylander’s breakout season, not just in numbers, but in how he impacts the play of the Maple Leafs, being permanently on the Leafs’ first power play, and how he has become the player other teams don’t know how to defend.
As the lowest paid of the $40 Million Four, Nylander has been the Leafs’ most dynamic and dangerous player through 15 games, after leading the team in scoring in the failed playoff series against Montreal last May. In his past 22 games as a Leaf, including playoffs, he has 12 goals and 23 points. That’s 44-goal pace. He has 15 points in 15 games — and probably could have five more with a little luck on his side — which is 82-point pace.
All this is happening as John Tavares has appeared to recover his offensive flair — when there were all kinds of doubt about his future last season. Tavares has 11 even-strength points, remarkably just two behind the dynamo that is Connor McDavid. And if the Leafs can get Auston Matthews back to offensive form, which is predictable, the scoring options, in spite of limited scoring elsewhere in the
It’s entirely possible the Leafs will have four players with 75 points or more this season — which they’re going to need. Everything with this team begins with the core four. The payroll is top-heavy and they’re going to need top-heavy performance, maybe more than ever before.
William Nylander has never scored more than 31 goals in an NHL season, never scored more than 61 points in an 82-game season — and all that appears to be changing before our very eyes.
This is the enigmatic Nylander’s breakout season, not just in numbers, but in how he impacts the play of the Maple Leafs, being permanently on the Leafs’ first power play, and how he has become the player other teams don’t know how to defend.
As the lowest paid of the $40 Million Four, Nylander has been the Leafs’ most dynamic and dangerous player through 15 games, after leading the team in scoring in the failed playoff series against Montreal last May. In his past 22 games as a Leaf, including playoffs, he has 12 goals and 23 points. That’s 44-goal pace. He has 15 points in 15 games — and probably could have five more with a little luck on his side — which is 82-point pace.
All this is happening as John Tavares has appeared to recover his offensive flair — when there were all kinds of doubt about his future last season. Tavares has 11 even-strength points, remarkably just two behind the dynamo that is Connor McDavid. And if the Leafs can get Auston Matthews back to offensive form, which is predictable, the scoring options, in spite of limited scoring elsewhere in the
It’s entirely possible the Leafs will have four players with 75 points or more this season — which they’re going to need. Everything with this team begins with the core four. The payroll is top-heavy and they’re going to need top-heavy performance, maybe more than ever before.
Lol, no. He was/is not generational; as a prospect, as a young NHL player, or now. Nylander is better than any of Mackinnon's first 4 years in the league.
Lets put this to the test
Mckinnon (first 4 years):300gp-75g-131a-206pts-.69ppg
Nylander (first 4 years): 239gp- 55g-107a-162pts- .67ppg
If we take it a step further and assume each guy played a full 82 course schedule for 4 years- Mckinnon would be averaging 57 points, Nylander averaging 55 points..... so while both guys have very similar point totals (ppg average), Nylander is NOT better than Mckinnions first 4 years, the stats back it up.
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He's saying that 2021-22 Nylander is better than MacKinnon was at any point in his first 4 years.
But strange comparison either way
You seem to have misunderstood what I was saying. Nylander, right now, is better than Mackinnon was at any point in his first 4 years. Mackinnon at 18 was not "better than Willy will ever be", let alone generational.
Now that I re-read it, I stand corrected on your point. Having said that your logic is way off... you can't compare an 18 year old rookie to a 25 year guy in his prime, it's NOT a fair comparison, and it doesn't tell any accurate story. If you want to compare the two that's fine, but there needs to be an even playing field to do so. It would be like comparing a 25 year old Ovie to an 18 year old Laine, to debate whos a better goal scorer.
Willy is NOT a generational player, at best hes a slightly above average 1st liner (if he can substain his pace), and while Mckinnion is not a generational player either, handsdown, I would take a prime Mckinnion over a prime Nylander... I feel that Nathan is a far more complete player.
It's not my logic. My post was a direct response to an individual who was making specific claims that "Mackinnon was a generational talent from the moment he was drafted" and that "MacKinnon at 18 was better than Willy will ever be". Both were incorrect claims.
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Willy had an off game against Sabres no doubt .. but so did Mitch and JT and neither got benched.. Keefer is gonna lose da room if he keeps blasting 1 guy and holds players to different standards .. no player is gonna bring it every single night
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An off game is very different than an approach to a game. The hows are more important to the whats, to a coach trying to build a team for future success.
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Um you're making a new argument up. The initial contention was that nylander currently is better than mack's first four seasons. Not that nylander's first four seasons are better than mack's first four seasons.
