Xspyrit
DJ Dorion
Am I the only who thinks the line-up is better than 2012-13 and even 2013-14?
Possibly, all good then , it's usually a good sign
Do you really believe in what you write? If the Sens are a joke, what are the Oilers, Panthers, Islanders, Blue Jackets, Flames, Sabres, Jets and Maple Leafs? Teams that almost never make the playoffs and never seem to get better despite drafting high or spending a ton of money
A very meh roster with a very average prospect pool is a super disingenuous thought. The line-up is actually a mix of both present and future, a transition. Seeing how many youngsters are already on the team and how many others are about to make it, it sounds unfair to call them "meh". Unless you really believe that all those guys have so-so potential (Karlsson, Lehner, Ceci, Cowen, Wiercioch, Wikstrand, Claesson, Turris, Zibanejad, Chiasson, Hoffman, Stone, Puempel, Lazar, Guptill, Pageau, Dzingel, Prince,...)
If you really think the Sens are no different than the Islanders and Panthers, I will conclude that you really lack any kind of analytical skill. Simply because the Sens have made the playoffs 14 of the last 17 seasons and the worst finishes are 22th in 2008-09, 26th in 2010-11 and 20th last year. How is it even comparable to the other teams I named before?
Money is another subject, but let's see what they will spend in the future. For now, it makes sense to spend below average while the team is growing up. It's the reality of the market of Ottawa, can't spend to the max every year if you want to remain profitable (particularly in non-contending years). Not sure why people have such a big trouble to understand that. Business 101
Not because Melnyk has a lot of money that he should be burning it. In fact, that might be that state of mind that pushed him to the top
Yes it's a bit true, this fanbase is really emo-parano, soft as tissue. Although it's getting better recently, we have a lot of great posters "moderating" (or trying lol) the whole thing.
This. Occidental mentality sucks. Psychology 101 : kick him while he's down.
I understand your point of view, from an outside perspective that must be hard to follow, but personally I really like the direction of the team : youth talent, build through the draft, like before. The Sens drafting really sucked from 2002 to 2007, it shouldn't come as a surprise why they hit a few bumps on the road since 2007-08.
On Ryan, it remains to be seen. I think he signs long-term and when he does, no more problem on that front
Alfie left because he is almost 42 y/o and has no time to wait for this team to turn into a contender (in the end, he might have went to play 1 season with his Swedish buddies for more money and a slightly better chance at the cup). Spezza left because he needed a change of scenery and was tired to be scapegoated (some of it was deserved frankly). Hurts the team very short term (and it remains to be seen), but will be for the best, going for another 7-8 years contract at 7-8 millions per would have been really risky. Might be another bullet dodged ala Heatley
Spezza-Turris-Smith or Turris-Zibanejad-Legwand
Let's see what difference it makes ON the ice.
All that being said, the Sens will still spank the Habs ***** quite easily
That's basically the question I ask myself everytime I log onto HF. I mean, we continue to cry for a player that is going to be 42 years old soon... And that comes from a guy who became a Sens fan because of Alfie.
When you read the main boards, it seems we have lost a ******** of guys. Well, in the past maybe (Chara, Havlat, Hossa...) but Heatley, why should regret losing him? Spezza might become same of the same story, I wouldn't be surprised.
How do you survive in this world? 99.9% of humans are a dime a dozen and 99.9% of the things you do (maybe 100%) is failure.
Well, that's not exactly the way to look at it. Just because layers like Mark Stone and Mike Hoffman played "some games" that they shouldn't be part of this equation
This post is heavily biased, you could at least try to make it a bit more subtle, please.
Not going to argue much because everybody knows how much crap you can come with, but do you realize 7 years is as close as 10 years than it is to 4 years?
Well in reality, since your post is addressed to a Habs fan, it's quite the opposite... I lived in Montreal 23 years. Do you want a list of players that were Habs property at first but only found success after they left Montreal?
Beauchemin
Hainsey
Streit
Robidas
...
Do you want me to continue?
Believe me, after Patrick Roy left Montreal, they had their dark days and it was way uglier than this "doom days" version of the Sens (making the playoffs 2 out 3 years while rebuilding with a 2nd round as the ice cake)
Also, the list you omitted included many players that were just traded. That has nothing to do with the current argument but Erik Alfredsson covered that already
Possibly, all good then , it's usually a good sign
Do you really believe in what you write? If the Sens are a joke, what are the Oilers, Panthers, Islanders, Blue Jackets, Flames, Sabres, Jets and Maple Leafs? Teams that almost never make the playoffs and never seem to get better despite drafting high or spending a ton of money
A very meh roster with a very average prospect pool is a super disingenuous thought. The line-up is actually a mix of both present and future, a transition. Seeing how many youngsters are already on the team and how many others are about to make it, it sounds unfair to call them "meh". Unless you really believe that all those guys have so-so potential (Karlsson, Lehner, Ceci, Cowen, Wiercioch, Wikstrand, Claesson, Turris, Zibanejad, Chiasson, Hoffman, Stone, Puempel, Lazar, Guptill, Pageau, Dzingel, Prince,...)
If you really think the Sens are no different than the Islanders and Panthers, I will conclude that you really lack any kind of analytical skill. Simply because the Sens have made the playoffs 14 of the last 17 seasons and the worst finishes are 22th in 2008-09, 26th in 2010-11 and 20th last year. How is it even comparable to the other teams I named before?
Money is another subject, but let's see what they will spend in the future. For now, it makes sense to spend below average while the team is growing up. It's the reality of the market of Ottawa, can't spend to the max every year if you want to remain profitable (particularly in non-contending years). Not sure why people have such a big trouble to understand that. Business 101
Not because Melnyk has a lot of money that he should be burning it. In fact, that might be that state of mind that pushed him to the top
Yes it's a bit true, this fanbase is really emo-parano, soft as tissue. Although it's getting better recently, we have a lot of great posters "moderating" (or trying lol) the whole thing.
This. Occidental mentality sucks. Psychology 101 : kick him while he's down.
I understand your point of view, from an outside perspective that must be hard to follow, but personally I really like the direction of the team : youth talent, build through the draft, like before. The Sens drafting really sucked from 2002 to 2007, it shouldn't come as a surprise why they hit a few bumps on the road since 2007-08.
On Ryan, it remains to be seen. I think he signs long-term and when he does, no more problem on that front
Alfie left because he is almost 42 y/o and has no time to wait for this team to turn into a contender (in the end, he might have went to play 1 season with his Swedish buddies for more money and a slightly better chance at the cup). Spezza left because he needed a change of scenery and was tired to be scapegoated (some of it was deserved frankly). Hurts the team very short term (and it remains to be seen), but will be for the best, going for another 7-8 years contract at 7-8 millions per would have been really risky. Might be another bullet dodged ala Heatley
Spezza-Turris-Smith or Turris-Zibanejad-Legwand
Let's see what difference it makes ON the ice.
All that being said, the Sens will still spank the Habs ***** quite easily
That's basically the question I ask myself everytime I log onto HF. I mean, we continue to cry for a player that is going to be 42 years old soon... And that comes from a guy who became a Sens fan because of Alfie.
When you read the main boards, it seems we have lost a ******** of guys. Well, in the past maybe (Chara, Havlat, Hossa...) but Heatley, why should regret losing him? Spezza might become same of the same story, I wouldn't be surprised.
How do you survive in this world? 99.9% of humans are a dime a dozen and 99.9% of the things you do (maybe 100%) is failure.
Well, that's not exactly the way to look at it. Just because layers like Mark Stone and Mike Hoffman played "some games" that they shouldn't be part of this equation
This post is heavily biased, you could at least try to make it a bit more subtle, please.
Not going to argue much because everybody knows how much crap you can come with, but do you realize 7 years is as close as 10 years than it is to 4 years?
Well in reality, since your post is addressed to a Habs fan, it's quite the opposite... I lived in Montreal 23 years. Do you want a list of players that were Habs property at first but only found success after they left Montreal?
Beauchemin
Hainsey
Streit
Robidas
...
Do you want me to continue?
Believe me, after Patrick Roy left Montreal, they had their dark days and it was way uglier than this "doom days" version of the Sens (making the playoffs 2 out 3 years while rebuilding with a 2nd round as the ice cake)
Also, the list you omitted included many players that were just traded. That has nothing to do with the current argument but Erik Alfredsson covered that already
