Who Wins The Conn Smythe Trophy?

[roon]

Eight.

And then in the two most important games in the Finals it was zero.

I'm not sure I agree with your premise that those were the 2 most important.

When every game is an elimination game - games 4 and 5 were pretty important.

 

[heksagon]

Full voting results:

Edmonton Oilers’ Connor McDavid was near unanimous 2024 Conn Smythe Trophy winner – Professional Hockey Writers Association

www.thephwa.com

So it seems clear that it was between McDavid and Barkov for the voters, not Bobrovsky.

Edit. Jim Mathesons votes were WILD man: McDavid, Hyman and Bouchard, not a single player from the Stanley Cup winning team.

 

[Foghorn Leghorn]

I swear, if McDavid did came out to get the smythe, you same f**** would be shitting on him for thinking he cares about indiviudal glory.

100% agree. That is EXACTLY what would have happened, and these people know it.

 

[shtorm2005]

The guy is hands down the best player in the NHL by a mile

He was 3rd in scoring race, I mean, he's the best, but by a mile???

 

[Shane Diesel]

I'm not sure I agree with your premise that those were the 2 most important.

When every game is an elimination game - games 4 and 5 were pretty important.

Game one: zero points
Game two: one point
Game three: two points
Game four: four points
Game five: four points
Game six: zero points
Game seven: zero points

Four out of the seven games in the Finals McDavid managed a single, measly point.

 

[Lshap]

I thought we were discussing the Finals specifically. In that case shutting down a player completely in three out of seven is nearly half last time I checked.

If we're discussing the Finals specifically, how many points did McDavid get?

Seriously... 11 points in 7 games and you're trying to build a case based on 3 games?

 

[Shane Diesel]

If we're discussing the Finals specifically, how many points did McDavid get?

See my post above yours.

Game one: zero points
Game two: one point
Game three: two points
Game four: four points
Game five: four points
Game six: zero points
Game seven: zero points

Four out of the seven games in the Finals McDavid managed a single, measly point.

Nine of the ten points he scored came in three games. The other four he registered one.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Game one: zero points
Game two: one point
Game three: two points
Game four: four points
Game five: four points
Game six: zero points
Game seven: zero points

Four out of the seven games in the Finals McDavid managed a single, measly point.

Good thing the Conn Smythe is for the playoffs as a whole and not a few games, eh.

I swear, HF knows as much about hockey as a dog does.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Good thing the Conn Smythe is for the playoffs as a whole and not a few games, eh.

I swear, HF knows as much about hockey as a dog does.

Coming from a poster of your stature, I take this as a compliment.

 

[roon]

Game one: zero points
Game two: one point
Game three: two points
Game four: four points
Game five: four points
Game six: zero points
Game seven: zero points

Four out of the seven games in the Finals McDavid managed a single, measly point.

And Barkov had 5 total points in the finals - 7 games...5 points.

When the other team is so scared of your talent that they designed their entire defensive game plan around you - it can sometimes be tough to put up points...but to still manage well over a PPG even with that going on is pretty impressive.

 

[Midnight Judges]

What McDavid did was fine. It's not a big deal.

 

[Shane Diesel]

And Barkov and 5 total points in the finals - 7 games...5 points.

When the other team is so scared of your talent that they designed their entire defensive game plan around you - it can sometimes be tough to put up points...but to still manage well over a PPG even with that going on is pretty impressive.

And Barkov was playing mostly against McDavid.

 

[Lshap]

See my post above yours.

Sorry, I really have no idea what point you think you're making. Are you actually saying McDavid doesn't deserve an award because he didn't get points in every single game?

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Sorry, I really have no idea what point you think you're making. Are you actually saying McDavid doesn't deserve an award because he didn't get points in every single game?

Apparently the Panthers really aren't that good and McDavid just sorta decided not to score every game. Or something.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Sorry, I really have no idea what point you think you're making. Are you actually saying McDavid doesn't deserve an award because he didn't get points in every single game?

Yes, I'm saying Barkov shut him down in the majority of the games head-to-head.

When you only put up any significant points in three games out of seven then it really wasn't as impressive a series people make it out to be.

 

[Lara Emily]

How many points did he register in games 4 and 5?

8

Only in game 5 was that the difference maker though, game 4 a lot of his points came during the pile on... Oilers win 4-1 if you take his 4 points out.

He didn't spark the team in game 4, the secondary crew sparked him

Game 5 was all him though

But then secondary had to carry 6, and it was secondary support that got the 1 in 7 and kept the them in a position where literally anything from McDavid gets them to OT minimum, instead he racks up 2 shots and wiffed throughout the third period and look especially terrible in the last minute of game 7 down by 1

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

Yes, I'm saying Barkov shut him down in the majority of the games head-to-head.

When you only put up any significant points in three games out of seven then it really wasn't as impressive a series people make it out to be.

Well the Oilers suck so yeah it actually kinda is.

 

[TGWL]

Maybe he just felt he didn't deserve it and was visibly upset they lost.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Well the Oilers suck so yeah it actually kinda is.

You got that right. The fact McDavid dragged Skinner, Nurse and Ceci to a Finals is incredibly impressive.

Unfortunately the magic ran out against a Selke center that can play against anyone in the league.

 

[Lara Emily]

Well the Oilers suck so yeah it actually kinda is.

The secondary won 2 out of their 3

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

The secondary won 2 out of their 3

You got that right. The fact McDavid dragged Skinner, Nurse and Ceci to a Finals is incredibly impressive.

Unfortunately the magic ran out against a Selke center that can play against anyone in the league.

Sorry, all I've garnered from these threads is that the Oilers are a crap team that got lucky and their stars are just overrated.

 

[Lara Emily]

McDavid makes sense because of how unnatural that point total in the playoffs were

But personally I'm really someone who thinks only losing goaltenders should ever be considered for the CST.

 

[TooManyHumans]

People trying to blame McDavid ought to instead direct some of that ire towards Draisaitl. Dude was invisible.

 

[Shane Diesel]

Sorry, all I've garnered from these threads is that the Oilers are a crap team that got lucky and their stars are just overrated.

No, I said McDavid was shut down four out of seven games in the Finals. I posted nothing about him being overrated. In fact I praised him for getting to the Finals with such a pedestrian roster.

 

[Voight]

IMO he should went and got it. Every other losing side player did it.

They did lose, but I think his team mates would've been fine with it seeing as he had an all time performance.