Who should be the next coach?

[Egghead1999]

Too much baggage , Toronto media will eat him alive (rightfully so).

Give me a break, if he brings in the cup, he will be the story of redemption.

In fact, I highly doubt that any media will bring the CHI story up(incl TSN) . Who wants to upset their own boss?

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

You don't replace an ELITE coach in Sheldon Keefe. Silly move.


This exactly. I could honestly give 2 shits if they replace Keefe if they keep Dubas and the core. Firing Keefe gives this core yet another out, one that they absolutely do not deserve.

Sheldon Keefe is not an elite coach, if he were he wouldn't be out coached in literally every single series he's been in.

And yes he was out coached in round 1 but got away with it because Vasilesky played the worst hockey of his career

 

[hoglund]

Mike Babcock, just kidding. I don't know who it should be.

 

[mydnyte]

Assuming they lose this series, I'd get rid of absolutely everyone. You can't just keep running it back. Shanny/Dubas/Keefe.

I feel like the Capitals organization is the most comparable to where we are. Star talent that never got it done, they moved some core pieces but held on to OV/Backstrom and rebuilt around them. New GM and new coach.

Oilers had already had one rebuild before we even started ours, and we have been ahead of them for years...
Colorado also rebuilt and tanked a few times before they got their chance, and it helps to not play in the hardest division in hockey.
Capitals are similar as they had only 1 rebuild and just tinkered a ton before finding the winning combo, for 1 season and it took a crazy long time and a few coaches and completely different play styles, but, they didnt dump their core.

 

[mydnyte]

And why oh why would we want to extend all of them? A new coach won’t matter unless the core is shaken up. Babcock didn’t work, Keefe did not work, why would next coach work? The core is the biggest issue, and it has not been touched yet.

do you think Toronto should be down 3-0?
if yes, then your statement is true, if not, it's Keefe's fault,
you cant blame the players for playing the game the way the coach draws it up and it not working, and then the coach not adapting or changing a damn thing other than to put in the defender that was on the ice for 75% of every goal scored against, thats 100% the coaches fault.

Dubas's biggest mistake was trusting that Keefe could get it done with an improved lineup.

This team should not be down in this series, and any decent coach would be ahead right now.

we arent a pressure team, we arent a rush team, we arent a dump and chase team, we just float around and kriss cross and hope their defenders get mixed up and someone gets lucky

and on defense, lets just back up and let the other team have free reign in our zone, and not double team the guy with the puck and have a 3rd guy in support (like pretty much every other team does)
no, we play man defense with weak ass players like Holl who could be dispossessed by a 120 lb child

my pent up frustration is starting to show i think

 

[mydnyte]

Wasn't he a big disappointment last year? (really every year until this one)

i dont even think he's been that much of an impact player in this series, Verhaeghe has been better and more dangerous in my opinion.
I was expecting a Perry like antagonist, but, thats been Bennett, who is always twice the player in the playoffs he is in the regular season ...maybe because he can get away with the garbage he pulls in the playoffs that gets called all the time in the regular season.
interestingly the Panthers have the #1, #2, and #4 picks from the 2014 draft (and that #3 was the best player)
Huberdeau was drafted in 2011, but the Florida rebuild started in 2010 technically
i think i've gone askew again.

 

[Amadeus]

I also like Todd Nelson. He did very well in his short stint with Edmonton long time ago but didn't get to keep the gig full time.

 

[lazyboy]

Too much baggage , Toronto media will eat him alive (rightfully so).

What I still cannot get over is how the current coach and all his baggage (and there is alot of it) are not all over Toronto media

 

[Menzinger]

If they move on from Keefe, there's always options other than the same old recycled names.

 

[Kazparov]

Get rid of MLSE

MLSE is no longer the problem. They would love to win because it would make them more $$$

Keefe is clearly getting out coached. He is failing to adapt to how play off hockey is played.

 

[RayzorIsDull]

Short of a miracle come back, Keefe is almost certainly gone.

So who should be next?

Peter Laviolette would be my choice.

We need a coach with credibility behind the bench and Laviolette has a cup, and 3 finals appearances under his belt.

He would NEVER allow Paul f***ing Maurice to out coach him.

That's all you need to know about how bad Keefe is.

He's allowing Paul f***ing Maurice to out coach him.

I suspect Gilliant will get a lot of votes, and I'm not against that either but he does tend to get fired quickly, to me that's a red flag and a rather big one.

So in 2018 when Maurice and the Jets embarrassed Laviolette and the Predators that was Laviolette giving Maurice a freebie?

 

[LeafalCrusader]

If they move on from Keefe, there's always options other than the same old recycled names.

Can't see them bringing in another inexperienced coach after Keefe.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Can't see them bringing in another inexperienced coach after Keefe.

Dallas Eakins would be a good fit for the tank

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

If they move on from Keefe, there's always options other than the same old recycled names.

Why bring in another cowardly rookie coach?

Bring in somebody that's proven.

 

[Hellcat]

Quinville

Now that Trots has retired The first choice for me is Quenneville, second would be Gallant. You might want to sign Nylander, Marner and Matthews before you hire any of those coaches, they are old school hard assess, the Marshmellow soft big four they would run not walk to UFA status/another team with those two coaches at the helm.

 

[centipede2233]

I say mike Keenan, you want to know what bure had to deal with? Now you’ll find out!

 

[Hellcat]

A coach who can think on the fly. Ours can not. We need a no nonsense coach who understands size on the wings wins in the playoffs.

I have not given up on winning this series yet as we are clearly the better team. I would move Laferty up to play with Mathews and Marner. He has speed and hits hard.

Then 90, 91,88
Then you spot in a 3rd line of
64, 15, 52
Spares play 4 to 5 minutes tops

It's happened four times in 203 series that started 3-0, it's great you have faith but, four times in 100ish years

1942 - Toronto beats Detroit in the Stanley Cup Final.
1975 - The New York Islanders beat the Penguins in a quarterfinal series.
2010 - Philadelphia beats Boston in a quarterfinal series
2014 - Los Angeles beats San Jose in a first-round series.

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[ULF_55]

These losers deserve a nice dose of Sutter.

I'd love Q if that's an option.

I like Bruce, but he's far too nice for the players

I can almost support this because they disappoint the fans so much maybe they deserve it.

Jeff Daniels

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

These losers deserve a nice dose of Sutter.

I'd love Q if that's an option.

I like Bruce, but he's far too nice for the players

There was a time I would have been all for Sutter.

That time has passed.

 

[francis246]

If they move on from Keefe, there's always options other than the same old recycled names.

I think Peter Laviolette would be the best fit right now. Unless there’s an AHL coach. Or maybe Spencer Carberry takes over?

 

[Cor]

A coach who doesn’t have an urge to play Justin Holl 25 minutes

 

[Cor]

My serious answer is Marc Savard. I think he can have a Martin St Louis type success right away. He’s had two really strong years in Windsor.

There’s a few others that are interesting. Bruce Boudreau for example. Greg Moore? Has certainly shut me up lately.

 

[TorMapleJays]

Mods

This needs a poll. (Post mortem)

I don’t want an inexperienced coach. Joey Q

 

[deprw]

I don't think there is experienced coach that is available and instant fix to our problems. Trotz might have been last summer, but now his not an option and might not have been even last summer.

There isn't that many coaches that have renewed their success and usually it's a new up and coming coach that wins the Stanley.

If we lose it will be really wicked problem to sort out, which way to go and with whom.

 

[horner]

Yeah I may be in the minority but I don't think anything gets better unless the players can start executing basic plays.

The need someone who teach them that .
Keefe hasn't tried or the players haven't listened.
It needs to start with your top players.