Who’s on your 5-10 NMC list?

[93LEAFS]

Yeah you mostly hear how bad things are from people who either have never lived here or lived here 10 years ago and hear made up stuff. I make a decent living and it's expensive, but it's nowhere near any sort of chaotic wasteland of homeless people stealing your car and eating your kids like they want it to sound like.

Anyway, to the point of the thread:

Arizona - directionless and who knows where I'll actually be playing in a couple of years.
Winnipeg - Too cold in the winters for me I think
Dallas - Too hot in the summers and just not a fan of the city itself. Kinda boring and beige.
Anaheim - Personal bias being a Kings fan.
Buffalo - Similar to Winnipeg. Too cold for me probably.

Other than that, send me anywhere. I'd totally play for Toronto or Montreal. If I'm a top player, I'd LOVE to help one of those cities win. You win a cup as the man in Toronto and you're gonna get a statue and be a legend in that city forever.

Strikes me as odd that people wouldn't want to be a wealthy person in a big city like NY or LA too. All the amazing things to do around these places and you're concerned because you're going to only get $8 million a year instead of $8.8 million a year? The pearl clutching is amazing.

Yeah, I don't get it. If I'm making enough NHL money that I could have a NMC, it's a pretty select list of cities I'm considering. Screw tax breaks at that point. Tier 1 for me would be Toronto (home/big city), NYC (North America's premier city) and Chicago (similar to Toronto, better downtown and waterfront). After that I'm looking at places like Boston or San Jose/Bay Area and MTL. Can't speak on LA (visiting this year, but it would intrigue me, although it's the definition of endless sprawl). Philly and DC would be intriguing (never been to Philly, but went to DC as a kid).

Pretty much any city that is a small downtown and then sprawls forever until the rich people move to the suburbs would be off my list, which describes a ton of American markets, but I also wouldn't want to live in a smaller market in Canada.

But, hey everyone has their preferences based on everything from politics, upbringing, how they are currently living, etc.

 

[Bobby9]

1) Winnipeg
2) Buffalo
3) Edmonton
4) Ottawa
5) Columbus

 

[njdevil26]

Okay here we go:

5 team no-trade

1. Winnipeg- I'm sorry. I'm sure the people that live there enjoy it... but I've been there and I just don't want to live there. It's not the worst place in the world but we're comparing it to 31 other cities and it's at the bottom for me.

2. Philadelphia- They haven't taken the full dip into the rebuild yet... they are on their way... but assuming I am submitting a no trade list with the motivation of going somewhere to win along with enjoying the living situation. Philly is a no for me. Most of the players live in and around Voorhees NJ near their practice facility so it's just a standard suburb situation.

3. Vancouver- The city is absolutely beautiful, however the team has been a mess along with ownership and management and I wouldn't be living there any time soon.

4. Chicago- If Toews and Kane were in their prime, sign me up... but they are gone and rebuilding. They might go through a few years similar to when their games weren't shown on TV.

5. Columbus- Nothing special about the city. Would not want to play for Babcock. Towards the bottom of a tough division. They have a solid prospect pool so 3-5 years from now they are probably going to be a threat in the division but if I were a player, that's too long of a wait.

Honorable Mention no trade- Islanders, Flames, Senators



5 team YES-trade

1. Colorado- The team can win now, Denver is a cool city, and the surrounding area is beautiful. Seems like a great place to play and live.

2. Tampa Bay- Great area to live, no state taxes, and a team that can still win in the short term. Easy.

3. Vegas- fastest growing metro area in the country, no state taxes, competitive team, you could golf til your golf balls fall off.

4. Dallas- Competitive team, no state tax, and a lot of options to buy up land and do whatever I want with it (bird sanctuary, ATV riding, and so on... personal interests).

5. Montreal- For selfish personal reasons. I love this city. My wife and I have been there 25-30 times in the last 10 or so years. Only a 6 hour drive. Great culture, absolutely amazing food/dining scene... Not too close to competing but this would be for selfish reasons. Getting to eat a Joe Beef more than 1/2 times per year is a big factor.

Honorable Mention yes trade- Kings, Devils (didn't include in main list for bias purposes but the window is just opening and you could live in JC, Hoboken, any number of the multi million dollar suburbs)

 

[DaPhazz]

1. Montreal
2. Seattle
3. San Jose
4. Toronto
5. Ottawa
6. Winnipeg
7. Vancouver
8. Edmonton
9. Calgary
10. Detroit

Can't understand why Seattle comes out so much... as a montrealer I lived there for a year working in the tech industry and it's a wonderful city.. probably the cleanest, nicest, coolest I've seen in the US so far. Also crazy about sports there.

 

[DaveG]

anywhere with an excessively high tax rate or high cost of living, or especially a combination of the two. so with that in mind:

any of the 3 California teams
NYR
NYI
NJD
CHI
VAN
TOR
MTL

only reason I would consider Boston is I've lived there before and loved the area, but they'd very much be a candidate for the list.

edit: Washington was close to making the list but there's areas of Virginia that I'd consider pretty well.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

At the same time I have cousins that moved to California in the last 5 years and say how much they love it there. They make a lot of money and live pretty nice lives, though.

NHLers won't live in high crime municipalities that allow homeless to roam free.

My understanding is the rural areas are great, outside the obvious taxes you still have to pay.

While they obviously wont live in the shit area of any city they move to, they're still going there on a daily basis for work, plus if you want to actually do anything.

Put it this way, I was recently down south on a road trip... The "Night life" area in Nashville feels a hell of a lot different than the "Night life" area in New Orleans.

 

[Ezekial]

Yeah you mostly hear how bad things are from people who either have never lived here or lived here 10 years ago and hear made up stuff. I make a decent living and it's expensive, but it's nowhere near any sort of chaotic wasteland of homeless people stealing your car and eating your kids like they want it to sound like.

I get it growing up in Chicago, you go to Missouri and tell people you're from Chicago and they apologize to you for it. The neighborhood I grew up is much safer than Lake of the Ozarks with much better food.

My understanding is the rural areas are great, outside the obvious taxes you still have to pay.

While they obviously wont live in the shit area of any city they move to, they're still going there on a daily basis for work, plus if you want to actually do anything.

Put it this way, I was recently down south on a road trip... The "Night life" area in Nashville feels a hell of a lot different than the "Night life" area in New Orleans.

I'm sure that's your understanding, that doesn't make it true. Here's a little info, the wealthy don't generally live in rural areas. They live in nice municipalities that have wonderful food options and stuff to do. California has a lot of them.

Edit: just to clarify I'm sure the rural areas are fine, they aren't the only place in California that are.

 

[SmytheKing]

My understanding is the rural areas are great, outside the obvious taxes you still have to pay.

While they obviously wont live in the shit area of any city they move to, they're still going there on a daily basis for work, plus if you want to actually do anything.

Put it this way, I was recently down south on a road trip... The "Night life" area in Nashville feels a hell of a lot different than the "Night life" area in New Orleans.

You're comparing two cities with a very vibrant culture and great nightlife. Compare Manhattan with downtown Tampa Bay or downtown Dallas if you want to be fair.

I was just in NYC. I live in Southern California and spend plenty of time in LA. It's not as bad as you hear from people with an agenda.

 

[M88K]

That's hard to limit it to 10. I'd need about 20
I wouldn't want to live in any of NY, NJ, IL, California, or Canada. Also wouldn't want to live in/around Detroit again. That place is a shit hole.
Limit to 10 i guess
Edm, Cgy, WPG, MTL, TOR, OTT, NYR, NYI, LA, CHI

 

[Cas]

I'm sure that's your understanding, that doesn't make it true. Here's a little info, the wealthy don't generally live in rural areas. They live in nice municipalities that have wonderful food options and stuff to do. California has a lot of them.

Yeah, the rural areas are ghastly (unless you're on the coast). Hot, a million miles from everywhere, surrounded by ******** whining about everything.

 

[RedHawkDown]

1. Arizona - embarrassing franchise that needs to be relocated
2. Vegas - no player loyalty and don't want to live in Vegas
3. Winnipeg
4. Buffalo
5. Chicago

 

[Ezekial]

Yeah, the rural areas are ghastly (unless you're on the coast). Hot, a million miles from everywhere, surrounded by ******** whining about everything.

 

[ViD]

I would play anywhere. They're paying me right?

NMC means you already have a contract and already getting paid

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

You're comparing two cities with a very vibrant culture and great nightlife. Compare Manhattan with downtown Tampa Bay or downtown Dallas if you want to be fair.

I was just in NYC. I live in Southern California and spend plenty of time in LA. It's not as bad as you hear from people with an agenda.

Yeah I'm really not though. New Orleans was disgusting. Nashville was not.

 

[Norwegianoiler]

Full NMC to all the warm places ranked from highest average temperature to lowest. That's it.

 

[Ezekial]

Yeah I'm really not though. New Orleans was disgusting. Nashville was not.

I'm sure if you went to both places in January your experience of both would've been different.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Full NMC to all the warm places ranked from highest average temperature to lowest. That's it.

Username checks out.

 

[Reaper45]

Toronto
Edmonton
Rangers
Calgary
Winnipeg
Buffalo
Capitals
Seattle
Flyers
Detroit

HM-SJ and Columbus

 

[buffalowing88]

I think it's cool to play in a market where people actually care. It sucks when you're losing, but if it's a winning team it's pretty awesome, I imagine. It'd be worse to play somewhere where there's less interest and if there's less to do in the city otherwise, it's gotta really suck.

So...

1. Winnipeg - They have passionate fans but that's just too cold and too isolated.
2. Arizona - No one cares and you live in the desert.
3. Dallas - No one cares and Dallas is the blandest city in the state.
4. Carolina - No one cares and Raleigh is so spread out it hardly feels like a city at all.
5. Columbus - No one cares and your organization is perpetually making bad choices.

Even though I'm from Buffalo, I would probably put them up there. The fans care but the wind chill is miserable in the winter and the city is pretty lackluster these days.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

The other thing that cracks me up here is the handful of references to the high cost of living in some places. Pretty sure it’s not an issue for 7 figure earners - and if you can afford to get into some of those costly markets, your ROI has historically been pretty sweet.

 

[GoJetsGo55]

 

[Jyrki Lumme]

Toronto...culture of losing
California teams(all)...bad state government
New York teams(all)...bad state government
Washington. DC...bad local government, too political
Chicago...bad local government
Boston...the rest of New England refers to MA as massholes...for deservedly good reasons.

Complains about Washington being too political
Cites disliking the municipal and state government as a reason for not liking a city

 

[SmytheKing]

Yeah I'm really not though. New Orleans was disgusting. Nashville was not.

Good point. New Orleans is notorious for not having a vibrant culture or nightlife. Very bereft of both.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Good point. New Orleans is notorious for not having a vibrant culture or nightlife. Very bereft of both.

I dunno what to tell you my guy. I didn't say it didn't have either. As a matter of fact I brought it up to compare to Nashville on account of their reputation for nightlife. I said the area is disgusting regardless. Learn the difference.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

If I am a hot Commidity let's say making 8 or 9 million a year and I have 5 teams on my list of teams I do not want.

1. Winnipeg - I don't know what they are doing at this point
2. San Jose - long rebuild ahead
3. Anaheim - Nope just Nope
4. Islanders - i just don't think a good fit with where they will be at. I could be wrong though Sarokin is a stud.
5. Flyers - I think a long rebuild ahead does not look appealing.