Proposal: Which fan base would do this trade Matthew Knies For Jesper Wallstedt
- Thread starter yzerman
- Start date
WarriorofTime
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2010
- 31,584
- 20,694
WarriorofTime
Registered User
- Jul 3, 2010
- 31,584
- 20,694
Horrible analogy. There are 20 different OHL teams. A leaf fan who happens to be a big fan of a particular OHL team will have good insight about a player on that team. Someone who casually follows the league as a whole will not. The Gophers are a huge presence in the state of Minnesota and the hockey following crowd likely has a lot of familiarity with a massive overlap between Minnesota Golden Gopher fans and Minnesota Wild fans.
You're comparing a following of an entire league to a following of a specific team that has a huge fanbase if you know anything about the state and its fanbase. Your assumptions are just off, it appears you pulled it out of nothing.
Rob Brown
Way She Goes
- Dec 17, 2009
- 17,426
- 14,496
Stephen
Moderator
- Feb 28, 2002
- 81,568
- 59,356
As a rule of thumb would imply it’s not about Wallstedt. For example I don’t think Nashville would get equivalent value for Askarov if they ever tried to trade him.
Al Lagoon
Registered User
- Feb 22, 2012
- 3,553
- 712
Maybe if Gus hadn't shat the bed last season. 2.10 GAA and .931 save % in 39 games in 22-23 as a 25 year old. 23-24 was a whole different story, .899 save % and 3.06 GAA in 45 games where he was counted on as #1, i.e. unreliable.
Love having Fleury hang around for his value as a hockey player and human being, but he likely hangs em up, and which Gus you gonna get?
Wallstedt is indispensable at this point.
Love having Fleury hang around for his value as a hockey player and human being, but he likely hangs em up, and which Gus you gonna get?
Wallstedt is indispensable at this point.
In a few years we will have thread and after thread asking why the OIlers did not want to draft him
Nor is Utah trading Cooley either, so it was never going to happen in the first place, which was the point.
Jared Dunn
Registered User
I mean they traded the guy they picked above him two weeks ago, those discussions have long been happening lol
At least Askarov might be more available than Wallstedt because of Saros's new deal.
Seems that Leaf fans are saying that they think they are fine in goal, and need a player like Knies, anyway. The whole premise of this thread is flawed, IMO. MN needs Wallstedt in the medium, if not short term, and have plenty enough young middle six talent either on the team or coming up in the next year or two in Boldy, Rossi, Yurov, Ohgren, maybe Khusnutdinov, Heidt. TOR has a couple, potentially, in Cowan and Minten, but can't let Knies go, not only from a talent perspective, but also because of his salary status.
Honestly, Minnesota has a Knies in Hartman (if he stays healthy). Hartman's best season should be what Knies tries to achieve every season. On the flip side Wallstedt could become the next Vasilevsky and I'd be hard pressed to trade Vas for Hartman.
40% of Toronto fans would do this
1% of Minnesota fans would do this
The results don’t lie. Awful deal
1% of Minnesota fans would do this
The results don’t lie. Awful deal
I expect him to be a very good 2nd line power forward.
Hartman is a 3rd line utility forward who can be a pest.
Okay, I think your opinion of Hartman is pretty low. He has averaged 56 points per 82 games the last 3 seasons with mostly even strength production. That’s not 3rd line production.
Only because he played with Kaprizov, as a center due to necessity since we didn't have any center depth.
Prior to that he was a 3rd line winger when we had better centers.
On a real playoff team, he's not a top 6 player.
TheKrebsCycle
Throwing Confetti for Perfetti
I mean he didn't really play with Kaprizov last season and was injured or coming off injuries and still put up 21 goals in 74 games. I'd say that is more middle 6 than anything.
