Proposal: Which fan base would do this trade Matthew Knies For Jesper Wallstedt
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Golden_Jet
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Knies is probably a nice top six player, but I wouldn’t move a G prospect like Walstedt for him. Neutral fan.
Since Edmonton traded Wallstedl to draft Bourgault. Edmonton would probably trade him and add a few draft picks to get Knies
Yes that was a really poor management not to draft Wallstedt i was really hoping to see Wallstedt in Edmonton i miss the Tommy Salo days.Since Edmonton traded Wallstedl to draft Bourgault. Edmonton would probably trade him and add a few draft picks to get Knies
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Both are good prospects . I agree that Wallstedt is potentially better but goalies are voodoo
Um no knies is the power forward. He has 1st line potential wouldnt trade him for walls
Whichever team is receiving Wallstedt and dealing this Knies guy would absolutely do this trade. Based on the poll, It appears that's Toronto.
Really want to nail down this position though goalies are never a sure thing. I think Wild have enough forwards in the pipeline where I'd prefer to keep the G and hope he lives up to his potential so we're not shopping for a new one every other year.
It's not a dismissal out of hand--I really like Knies.
It's not a dismissal out of hand--I really like Knies.
TheKrebsCycle
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The fact you don’t appear to know who he is yet are commenting seems disingenuous.
Namikaze Minato
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It's one of my favourite shticks people often use when they think they are dissing a player because "ive never even heard of this guy" type comments.
Really is just showing how little hockey knowledge they have hahaha
TheKrebsCycle
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Yup not a site for the casuals ( which is strange as said poster has a million posts ) . But yah if the intent was to disparage a prospect I think it usually renders the opposite result
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ColbyChaos
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Why?
Goalies are crap shots and we see what Nashville got in their trade.
Knies might be a "supporting" cast player but he it the type of guy every team wants in the playoffs.
Dion TheFluff
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ColbyChaos
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Just because he can bully the leafs soft ass forwards and score on their bad goalies in practice adoesn’t make Knies a first line power forward lmaoooo
Dr Jan Itor
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Personally... I subscribe to the theory (as mentioned by another poster in the thread) -- that young goalies are voodoo.
You never know what you're going to get, until they've established themselves over a few years in the NHL. Jesper Wallstedt has 3 NHL games. Heck, in the AHL, Dennis Hildeby was better than Wallstedt.
So this Toronto fan says no... and that's not me dumping on Wallstedt or thinking that Knies is the most valuable young player in the league... it's me saying that all young goalies are a bit of a crapshoot, the Leafs have 2 already, and Knies is a reasonably known quantity that fits spectacularily well into our lineup.
You never know what you're going to get, until they've established themselves over a few years in the NHL. Jesper Wallstedt has 3 NHL games. Heck, in the AHL, Dennis Hildeby was better than Wallstedt.
So this Toronto fan says no... and that's not me dumping on Wallstedt or thinking that Knies is the most valuable young player in the league... it's me saying that all young goalies are a bit of a crapshoot, the Leafs have 2 already, and Knies is a reasonably known quantity that fits spectacularily well into our lineup.
Dion TheFluff
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he's as much as a 1st line Powerforward as Wallstedt is a starting goalie.
I'm going to disagree (and personally dislike the term "voodoo" when talking about goalies). Many factors come into play when developing a young goalie. In the case of Wallstedt, he's been a standout since a very young age, is very technically sound, and is currently adapting to his 3rd year in North America.
Team system of play and team defensive structure are also key factors in goalie development. How many shots does he see a game? What type of shots (high/low danger)?
How is he being developed? His lateral movements, glove hand, stick handling, timing, etc etc. It's not voodoo, it's a full system of development. Some goalie coaches are much better than others, many goalies (especially those with a higher pedigree) are given much more opportunity. Team development system at each level is important.
In this specific case, I see Wallstedt with the upside of a no.1 goalie, while being on a team with a good system to develop his skills. Knies I see as a very good 2W with the ability to fill in at 1W if need be.
If developed properly by each team, I'm easily taking the 1G over the 2W.. but again, that's if everything breaks right for each player based off of the systems they are currently in.
LivingRentFree
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Not trading Knies for magic beans. Especially goalie beans.
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Goalies are voodoo. I don't think I'd ever trade a forward/defense prospect of relatively equal value for a goalie prospect due to the volatility of their position.
Disagree! Wallstedt is a highly rated goaltending prospect and has been tracking strong since he was young. Knies is good, and should be a good 2W, but MAN is he overrated!
LivingRentFree
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How can he possibly be overrated? I’ve never seen anybody say he’s more than a 2nd liner/fill in on the top line? The guy plays the game the right way.
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