Which contract would you choose with Matthews?

[ULF_55]

I'd take B with a limited no trade clause, ten teams he doesn't want to go to. I would not give out no, no full movement clauses. That way come year 3 if it's not working out you move him, if not make him a lifetime Leaf.


You think he is that fragile? He does engage physically.

Seems to be injured or playing injured most seasons.

When you looking at playing time, this year in the same playing time Nylander matched him goals and assists.

So shouldn't we expect a healthy Matthews to be at a minimum 25% better?

 

[ToDavid]

Those are all terrible contracts.

 

[daveleaf]

Seems to be injured or playing injured most seasons.

When you looking at playing time, this year in the same playing time Nylander matched him goals and assists.

So shouldn't we expect a healthy Matthews to be at a minimum 25% better?

He should be far more better. That being said he is facing the other teams most talented defenders. That being said it's the coach's responsibility to get these guys in better situations. I be happy with A, I'd give him a little more with a limited no trade clause.

 

[Zero1]

This should be his last contract with the Leafs regardless of length.

He’s trying to get the 8-year deal when he’s 30+.

Sign him for 2-3 years at a much lower AAV than $16mill and go pitch to McDavid. If McDavid says no then rebuild.

 

[Sypher04]

Dubas level bad. Let’s hope Treliving is bright enough to not even contemplate a number like that.

I’m genuinely confused why 8x16.7 is an option in the poll. And even more so how 4 people have chosen it (trolls from other fanbases maybe).

There’s no world where an 8 year Matthews extension costs anywhere close to that number in AAV

 

[Mess]

Those are all terrible contracts.

Nylander scores 40 goals and 87 points and is asking for $10.5 mil while making $7 mil..

Matthews scores 40 goals and 85 points and is asking for +$13 mil while already making $11.6 mil

Leafs let Zach Hyman walk and he scores 36 goals and 83 points and making $5.5 mil which was seen as TOO rich for Toronto yet Tavares scores 36 goals and 80 points for $11 mil.

Just trying to make sense of Leafs spending and bang for your Cap buck value analysis would make a Leaf fan tear out their own hair .

 

[Sypher04]

Nylander scores 40 goals and 87 points and is asking for $10.5 mil while making $7 mil..

Matthews scores 40 goals and 85 points and is asking for +$13 mil while already making $11.6 mil

Leafs let Zach Hyman walk and he scores 36 goals and 83 points and making $5.5 mil which was seen as TOO rich for Toronto yet Tavares scores 36 goals and 80 points for $11 mil.

Just trying to make sense of Leafs spending and bang for your Cap buck value analysis would make a Leaf fan tear out their own hair .

It’s almost like there’s a lot more that goes into contracts than just their most recent season raw totals

 

[ToneDog]

Still waiting for someone to explain to me why Matthews is worth north of $13M when McKinnon signed for under that FOR 8 YEARS!!

It's utter insanity to keep backing up the Brinks truck and not get term for a guy who has yet to show he cares, and is willing to go to war in the playoffs.

There is no valid explanation. My only guess is that with the talk of the cap rising by $4m in a year, these greedy guys want a big chunk of it.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Where's the trade his overpaid ass option?

It's in your imagination.

 

[Pebble live]

12.8 x 3 MAX. If the team still hasn't won or made it to the ECF or SC final by the time hes in the final year you trade him and let another team deal with his diva demands.

 

[ACC1224]

12.8 x 3 MAX. If the team still hasn't won or made it to the ECF or SC final by the time hes in the final year you trade him and let another team deal with his diva demands.

He won’t be available to trade, they would have to let him walk.

 

[BraveCanadian]

Don't like any of the options but chose the short term for lowest aav... he seems to have nagging injury issues and the Leafs need the room to try and win in the next couple of years before its blow it up time.

 

[EGL22]

When I see numbers like this it reminds me that I will always cheer for the crest on the front but I sure as hell don't like the names on the back.

 

[Racer88]

Nylander scores 40 goals and 87 points and is asking for $10.5 mil while making $7 mil..

Matthews scores 40 goals and 85 points and is asking for +$13 mil while already making $11.6 mil

Leafs let Zach Hyman walk and he scores 36 goals and 83 points and making $5.5 mil which was seen as TOO rich for Toronto yet Tavares scores 36 goals and 80 points for $11 mil.

Just trying to make sense of Leafs spending and bang for your Cap buck value analysis would make a Leaf fan tear out their own hair .

Leafs spending it atrocious and out of control for a bunch of overrated players who havnt won a thing as a team

Tre should have had him ready to sign a contract or trade him before July 1st.

 

[notDatsyuk]

He should be far more better. That being said he is facing the other teams most talented defenders. That being said it's the coach's responsibility to get these guys in better situations. I be happy with A, I'd give him a little more with a limited no trade clause.

In theory at least, the home team gets the preferred matchups, assuming the coach is competent.

 

[mapleleaf979]

If Matthews wants to win and be a team guy he would take 10 million. Id give the C if he did that and Marner would have the same choice take less than 10 million or your traded.

 

[ToneDog]

If Matthews wants to win and be a team guy he would take 10 million. Id give the C if he did that and Marner would have the same choice take less than 10 million or your traded.

When hell freezes over are Matty and Skip taking $10m. That ship has sailed.

 

[Sypher04]

When hell freezes over are Matty and Skip taking $10m. That ship has sailed.

I mean, with or without their current deals, $20M combined for the pair wouldn’t be reasonable to expect even as an understood discount

 

[notDatsyuk]

If Matthews wants to win and be a team guy he would take 10 million. Id give the C if he did that and Marner would have the same choice take less than 10 million or your traded.

Correct.

When hell freezes over are Matty and Skip taking $10m. That ship has sailed.

Also correct.

 

[Racer88]

In theory at least, the home team gets the preferred matchups, assuming the coach is competent.

That’s a big assumption

 

[MCR74]

The third option makes me sick.

 

[Niagara Bill]

The Leafs lost the edge on June 30th. AM and his agent celebrated all night. Now the Leafs have 2 choices only.
1. Give him the 3 yr deal he wants, and insist on not having a ntc
2. Give him a deadline of August 1 to sign or cut off negotiations and get prepared to lose him.
The longer this goes on the more nickel and dimeing his agent will do.
There cannot be a ntc longer than 12 months at the beginning of the agreement. We must have the trade option.
I think AM is declining in value when other superstars are still growing.

 

[Legion34]

The middle option. I simply can't entertain 12.8M x 3 based on the paltry amount of term. Meanwhile, I love the term on the 16.7M x 8 but don't like the idea of making him the highest paid player to such an extent. By the process of elimination, we're begrudgingly left with my choice of 13.8M x 5.

If he signed for 12.8 x 3… that would bring his 8 year total to 12.07 x8.

Which is about fair. Everyone complaining they didn’t get 8 years. Well know you did.


My personal bet is 13.34 x4 years.
I would try to get him for 12.634 x 3

Still gets to be the highest player takes a discount to help the team. I just wonder if he can beat the records

I personally didn’t think he was going to be here forever. I would like to sign him for 4 years. Trade him after 3 if he won’t sign

We will see what he does.

 

[keonsbitterness]

The Leafs lost the edge on June 30th. AM and his agent celebrated all night. Now the Leafs have 2 choices only.
1. Give him the 3 yr deal he wants, and insist on not having a ntc
2. Give him a deadline of August 1 to sign or cut off negotiations and get prepared to lose him.
The longer this goes on the more nickel and dimeing his agent will do.
There cannot be a ntc longer than 12 months at the beginning of the agreement. We must have the trade option.
I think AM is declining in value when other superstars are still growing.

If it's three years, there should not be any trade or move clause.

 

[Sypher04]

Correct.

Not correct at all. Even at a big discount there would be no justification for Matthews only getting $10M. We’d all love it obviously, but it wouldn’t have to be that low to be a demonstration of taking less for the betterment of the team