Value of: Which bad contract could the Leafs trade Tavares for?

[shortfuze]

unfortunately no where near enough to justify his cap hit

He doesn’t get paid to just put up points. He’s a 1C, ok defensively and the captains of the team. Is he a little overpaid? Sure he is. I’d rather have an overpaid 1C than a scrub like Lucic etc…

 

[hotpaws]

Just out of curiosity, how much do you think his cap hit should be, based on his production ?

around 7m per give or take a little based on his level of play

 

[hotpaws]

He doesn’t get paid to just put up points. He’s a 1C, ok defensively and the captains of the team. Is he a little overpaid? Sure he is. I’d rather have an overpaid 1C than a scrub like Lucic etc…

why do people keep bringing up he's the C ? the only reason Dubas/Shanny handed him the captaincy is it was the pc thing to do after AM dropped his pants since it not like the team looks up to him

and he's not a little overpaid , he's millions overpaid and his signing destroyed the Leafs

 

[Zonk]

TSN ranked Taveras as the 40th best skater in the NHL as of 6 October 2021. How did his value decline so rapidly?

 

[The90]

around 7m per give or take a little based on his level of play

7 lol. Ppg players aren’t paid 7 bud. Sorry. Not unless they’re on a bridge deal or an elc. Suzuki has never even gotten 60 points over a full season, let alone being a ppg player for 8? Years, and he just got 7.875 x 8.

Do better.

 

[AvroArrow]

around 7m per give or take a little based on his level of play

Since joining the Leafs, he's 12th in scoring overall among all centers in the league. 4 points back of Zibanejad and 6 points back of Point. None of the 11C that produced more than him have signed for under 8.4M in the last 3 years.

Are Point and Zibby also 2.5M and 1.5M overpaid, with the bar set at 7M ? Or is that 4-6 points gap they have worth the extra salary they are being paid ? Not to mention the tax break Point gets, being in Florida.

McDavid 12.5
Draisaitl 8.5 (Signed before he broke out)
Mackinnon 6.3 (signed before he broke out)
Scheifele 6.1 (signed before he broke out)
Barkov 10
Matthews 11.6
Aho 8.4
Crosby 8.7
Point 9.5
Stamkos 8.5
Zibanejad 8.5

 

[shortfuze]

why do people keep bringing up he's the C ? the only reason Dubas/Shanny handed him the captaincy is it was the pc thing to do after AM dropped his pants since it not like the team looks up to him

and he's not a little overpaid , he's millions overpaid and his signing destroyed the Leafs

because he is the captain. Is there any proof that they were going to hand the captaincy over to Matthews? Doubt it.

On the open market I don’t think he’d have a problem getting 9.5-10 million, today.

How much do you think he should get paid?

 

[Taylorst]

Acquiring Tavares was a well known foreseeable bad idea. He was extremely overhyped, over paid and seriously underperformed in every metric expected .

Trying to load up a team with superstars isn't a recipe for winning a championship. You need clutch players, character and guys who will be team players.

 

[AvroArrow]

Acquiring Tavares was a well known foreseeable bad idea. He was extremely overhyped, over paid and seriously underperformed in every metric expected .

Trying to load up a team with superstars isn't a recipe for winning a championship. You need clutch players, character and guys who will be team players.

He literally set a career high playing in Toronto and has maintained his career average thus far, but sure "under performed in every metric"

 

[nbwingsfan]

Yes we’re all crying about our 70+ point 2c. Just can’t get over it.

If he was making like $8M you’d be all set. Instead it’s an $11M declining asset

 

[The90]

If he was making like $8M you’d be all set. Instead it’s an $11M declining asset

It’s hilarious how much you’re literally in every leaf thread lol

 

[hotpaws]

7 lol. Ppg players aren’t paid 7 bud. Sorry. Not unless they’re on a bridge deal or an elc. Suzuki has never even gotten 60 points over a full season, let alone being a ppg player for 8? Years, and he just got 7.875 x 8.

Do better.

hey bud we're discussing the player he is today which is not a ppg player , his production as well as his overall game has declined since his first season with us

 

[hotpaws]

because he is the captain. Is there any proof that they were going to hand the captaincy over to Matthews? Doubt it.

On the open market I don’t think he’d have a problem getting 9.5-10 million, today.

How much do you think he should get paid?

on the open market anything can happen since it just takes one incompetent/desperate GM to offer a n absurd contract but even then i doubt he gets anywhere near 10

people have to be in serious denial if they can't see how limited his game has become

 

[drktmplr12]

the value is 0. JT isn't getting traded. why does it take 10 pages of discussion?

 

[nbwingsfan]

It’s hilarious how much you’re literally in every leaf thread lol

As already said, you guys give a lot of nonsense to respond to.

 

[Seras]

TSN ranked Taveras as the 40th best skater in the NHL as of 6 October 2021. How did his value decline so rapidly?

It didn't, people are just dumb

 

[Seras]

on the open market anything can happen since it just takes one incompetent/desperate GM to offer a n absurd contract but even then i doubt he gets anywhere near 10

people have to be in serious denial if they can't see how limited his game has become

Vague excuses followed by exaggerations.

Pretty much this entire thread in a nutshell

 

[Taylorst]

He literally set a career high playing in Toronto and has maintained his career average thus far, but sure "under performed in every metric"

How many eastern conference finals or stanley cups did his signing help bring to Toronto ZERO . How many games or series did he single handedly win to propel the leafs forward ZERO. He was the captain in long Island apparently he doesn't poses strong leadership ability

 

[HuskyBruinPride]

Why would Toronto trade him for another bad contract? JT is actually still useful...

 

[The90]

hey bud we're discussing the player he is today which is not a ppg player , his production as well as his overall game has declined since his first season with us

Hey bud, that the one who’s had 200 points in 205 games since becoming a leaf? Or are we adjusting things as needed to prove our point

 

[hotpaws]

Hey bud, that the one who’s had 200 points in 205 games since becoming a leaf? Or are we adjusting things as needed to prove our point

what does it matter what a player did 3 seasons ago ?

JT can't keep up with the flow of the game anymore , all he has left is being good on draws and vulturing around the net , i know the truth hurts but denying them doesn't make little Yanni Pj's a better player .

 

[The90]

what does it matter what a player did 3 seasons ago ?

JT can't keep up with the flow of the game anymore , all he has left is being good on draws and vulturing around the net , i know the truth hurts but denying them doesn't make little Yanni Pj's a better player .

Lol. That must mean patty hornqvist is a 70 point player! All you have to do is go to the net ladies and gents!

 

[The90]

As already said, you guys give a lot of nonsense to respond to.

Lol. Show us on this doll where the leafs hurt you so much as to make you chase their fans around for months on an online message board.

 

[AvroArrow]

How many eastern conference finals or stanley cups did his signing help bring to Toronto ZERO . How many games or series did he single handedly win to propel the leafs forward ZERO. He was the captain in long Island apparently he doesn't poses strong leadership ability

How many conference finals or cups did McDavid bring to Edmonton ? Zero, therefore he must be shit HF Logic

These are the same posters who get offended when labelled as leafs haters

Nobody was even talking about Stanley cups If that's your only measure for how good/bad a player is, about 80% of the league is shit and not worth their contract

 

[hotpaws]

Lol. That must mean patty hornqvist is a 70 point player! All you have to do is go to the net ladies and gents!

as long as you have quality linemates to get you the puck it works

but please tell me what Yanni does other than how i described him since you disagree