Daffy
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He's a very good goalie. But behind a good defensive team like Boston, those numbers will be inflated.Hes a vezina winner 4 years younger no big deal.
He's a very good goalie. But behind a good defensive team like Boston, those numbers will be inflated.Hes a vezina winner 4 years younger no big deal.
Maybe last year. The Bruins defence this year wasn’t nearly as good.He's a very good goalie. But behind a good defensive team like Boston, those numbers will be inflated.
Goals saved above expected:He's a very good goalie. But behind a good defensive team like Boston, those numbers will be inflated.
Younger. Yes, by a whole 3.5 yearsLinus is much younger and a much better goalie, he will demand a better return
He's the reigning Vezina winner, Lead the NHL in wins, save percentage, goals against average, and shared the Jennings with Swayman. Check back when Markstrom has accomplished any of these. He's younger and significantly better than Markstrom and holds more value for sureYounger. Yes, by a whole 3.5 years
Better? Maybe, but definitely not by a lot. And if we're going to go just by this season, I think Markstrom was better
The things you've neglected to mention is that Markstrom's contract situation is significantly better. 2 years left is better than 1. Cheaper is better than more expensive
Wow is all I can sayYounger. Yes, by a whole 3.5 years
Better? Maybe, but definitely not by a lot. And if we're going to go just by this season, I think Markstrom was better
The things you've neglected to mention is that Markstrom's contract situation is significantly better. 2 years left is better than 1. Cheaper is better than more expensive
Maybe in years past, but the Bruins were nearly as good defensively this year as they have been. We were bottom half of the league in like all of shots against, scoring chances against, high danger chances against, and expected goals against.He's a very good goalie. But behind a good defensive team like Boston, those numbers will be inflated.
I think Ullmark specifically wants to stay in the EastDon't see him within the same division
So expect a trade to a Western Conference team
Most reports seem to say that his NTC is largely made up of teams on the west coast for geographic reasons. No one really knows if that's true, but it would make sense considering he has a young family and going out west would make the travel back home to Sweden considerably longer for him.Don't see him within the same division
So expect a trade to a Western Conference team
It's funny how the goalie is never good. It's only the system that he plays in front of. Ullmark was a good goalie in Buffalo. Last year he had a bump to his numbers being on an historically good team but that team also included him.Goals saved above expected:
Markstrom-
23-24: 13.7
22-23: -3.1
21-22: 10.8
20-21: -9.3
Total: 12.1
Ullmark-
23-24: 14.8
22-23: 42.4
21-22: 5.7
20-21: -3.6
Total: 59.3
Not inflated at all really. If anything Boston’s numbers are inflated by Ullmark, not the other way around.
That would be a surprise twist no one saw coming. Just like teh PLD trade. Better goalie for another shot for Ovi?I think he gets traded to Washington.
League averages were around .910 the years he was in Buffalo while he was a .912, 900 wasn't ok little lone better than OK back then.Go look at his numbers in Buffalo. A consistent career .915 guy in a league where the average is .900 is better than OK.
League averages were around .910 the years he was in Buffalo while he was a .912, 900 wasn't ok little lone better than OK back then.
You can't really compare historical sv% the way the league has seen avg sv% drop the way they have.
He has certainly been better than ok since arriving in Boston, and his time in Buffalo suggests he is a capable goalie even without an elite defensive team in front of him, but there are still reasonable questions about how good he really is, as he's only once played more than half a seasons worth of games, and he's not put up elite numbers outside of Boston, where both goalies have performed pretty similarly (Swawman is pretty darn good himself).
So, the premise is team can drastically affect sv%, therefor his numbers in Boston are equally inflated? I'm not a big advocate of fancy stats for goalies, but here's the 5v5 GA numbers;The work load questions are fair, but putting up a .912 on those Buffalo teams was very very very good.
Season | Team | GP | GA | xGA | GSAx |
20152016 | BUF | 20 | 49 | 42.09 | -6.91 |
20162017 | BUF | 1 | 3 | 3.11 | 0.11 |
20172018 | BUF | 5 | 8 | 8.95 | 0.949 |
20182019 | BUF | 37 | 109 | 89.73 | -19.27 |
20192020 | BUF | 34 | 91 | 83.97 | -7.03 |
20202021 | BUF | 20 | 49 | 44.96 | -4.04 |
20212022 | BOS | 41 | 95 | 94.08 | -0.920 |
20222023 | BOS | 49 | 91 | 126.68 | 35.68 |
20232024 | BOS | 41 | 103 | 117.61 | 14.61 |
I think he's certainly top half, and likely top 10,i'd say linus is easily a top 10 goalie in the league. with an extension attached, he's more valuable than markstrom.
goalie returns are all over the map, and he has a significant NTC, so who knows how it'll play out...but whoever gets him
will be better for it.
as for the question on the thread, i'll say ottawa since there's enough smoke to see it happening.
So, the premise is team can drastically affect sv%, therefor his numbers in Boston are equally inflated? I'm not a big advocate of fancy stats for goalies, but here's the 5v5 GA numbers;
Season Team GP GA xGA GSAx 20152016 BUF 20 49 42.09 -6.91 20162017 BUF 1 3 3.11 0.11 20172018 BUF 5 8 8.95 0.949 20182019 BUF 37 109 89.73 -19.27 20192020 BUF 34 91 83.97 -7.03 20202021 BUF 20 49 44.96 -4.04 20212022 BOS 41 95 94.08 -0.920 20222023 BOS 49 91 126.68 35.68 20232024 BOS 41 103 117.61 14.61
Yeah I think we both know that the GSAA stats are pretty flawed given their in ability to account for more than shot location and type and not how much the coverage has broken down. I’m perfectly willing to admit that Ullmark is not the Dominic Hasek level goalie he put up the numbers of last season and that goalies stats are not on an island. I also want to say that the Bruins D post Bergeron was really problematic, not just below average, for most of the year, despite them getting their shit together by the end of the year.
I like Ulmark, I think he's an above average starter, no doubt there, and probably top 10 currently. But, I also think he's getting the Brian Elliott/Jake Allen style bump, though perhaps not to the same degree. I think any team acquiring him has to set their expectations accordingly, you're getting a good starter, but are you getting a vezina level guy? idk.
You didn’t watch many Bruins games this past season did you. The reason why their numbers look good is because Ullmark and Swayman were so good. Why do I get the feeling Ullmark’s reputation gets ripped apart because he was with some terrible Buffalo teams?He's a very good goalie. But behind a good defensive team like Boston, those numbers will be inflated.
Goalies for me always seem like a wildcard to spend assets to acquire.
It’s hard to predict how they are going to perform behind a different system, a different roster, a different coaching staff, etc.
I almost think it’s more important to lock in your top 18 before going out to get your goalie (if you have to acquire one externally). If you spend to bring a guy in who doesn’t perform because your defense core sucks, what was the point?