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Is this not universally recognized as a mistake yet or what
Where Does Auston Matthews Rank For You As A Goal Scorer All Time?
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While I agree, my guess is that the massive goaltenders and their equipment might cancel a lot of those things out.
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Rants Mulliniks
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I said it then and maintain it now, if I was choosing a d-man as a shooter, it’d be a MacInnis and he’s going first with instruction to bomb a close range slapshot at Dom’s chest / head to try and scare the bejeezus out of him for those that follow.
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Nice, the old Bobby Hull tactic back in the day, on his first couple of shifts.
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Might as well just have him take off his skate and try to stab him at that point
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SmoggyTwinkles
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I wouldn't rank any current player on an "all time" list.
He's stil playing.
This is a useless conversation to me, and yet I'm giving my opinion on it I guess.
He's pretty good at scoring goals is all I know. So are other players currently playing but yeah I guess I'd have to say that Matthews is kinda nuts with the goal scoring.............
But let's talk about this in ten years if we're still alive.
He's stil playing.
This is a useless conversation to me, and yet I'm giving my opinion on it I guess.
He's pretty good at scoring goals is all I know. So are other players currently playing but yeah I guess I'd have to say that Matthews is kinda nuts with the goal scoring.............
But let's talk about this in ten years if we're still alive.
SmoggyTwinkles
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Gotta be honest. I thought the Zach Hyman contract was going to be bad. It's not, it's a freakin' steal.
Huh............
KevinFinnerty
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When we look at the stats, he is ahead of Ovechkin in everything, except career length and gross totals. Auston has higher peak level, better consistency, and most importantly, higher scoring when adjusted to games played and TOI.
Also, what is often forgotten in the conversation, he has been in another league as compared to Ovi in 5v5 scoring. This speaks both to Auston's more well-rounded game and Ovi's reliance (but also skill) on scoring from the point on the PP.
Now, obviously in terms of career vs career comparison Ovi leads due to his long successful career, but Matthews has literally been the better scorer ever since his entry to the league in terms of pure performance. Rookie-to-date Matthews has outperfomed even the best 7 year stretch Ovi ever had. That should speak for itself.
So I would put Matthews even now in the top 5, due to his historical level of performance, which has only been bested by Gretzky and Mario in the semi-modern history.
Also, what is often forgotten in the conversation, he has been in another league as compared to Ovi in 5v5 scoring. This speaks both to Auston's more well-rounded game and Ovi's reliance (but also skill) on scoring from the point on the PP.
Now, obviously in terms of career vs career comparison Ovi leads due to his long successful career, but Matthews has literally been the better scorer ever since his entry to the league in terms of pure performance. Rookie-to-date Matthews has outperfomed even the best 7 year stretch Ovi ever had. That should speak for itself.
So I would put Matthews even now in the top 5, due to his historical level of performance, which has only been bested by Gretzky and Mario in the semi-modern history.
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Bossy is an interesting argument for many reasons as the best goal scorer of all time. Among what has been said here already, he had a career shooting percentage of somewhere around 24%
A 24% career shooting percentage?!
That’s is ridiculous but how does it compare to Gretzky’s shooting percentage during the same timeframe? I imagine it would be pretty close. Maybe there’s another player who had an even higher shooting percentage. But that does sound crazy though.
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Gretzky started around a similar shooting percentage as Ovechkin and Matthews, then hit 20%, 24% and finally 26% then went back down to Ovechkin/matthews 16-18%
I don’t know if anyone has a career shooting percentage higher than Bossy. He peaked at 24% I was exaggerating off of memory it looks like he is 21% for his career
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Yes, it's close. Bossy shot 21.2% over his entire ten year career, Gretzky shot 20.6% over his first ten years. Over the eight years they overlapped (1980 to 1987), Gretzky was slightly ahead (21.0% - 20.5%).
During Bossy's career, there were 11 players who scored 100+ goals with >20% shooting percentage. (The leader was Charlie Simmer, who shot 23.3% during that span).
For some context - during Bossy's career, 40 players scored 100+ goals on >18% shooting. From 2006 to today, there were only two players who did that (Draisaitl and, surprisingly, Alex Tanguay).
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What era is this that you think Matthews is hands down the best goal scorer of exactly?
rubenflamshep
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Not the OP but post-Ovechkin for sure. Now looking to be the best goal-scorer including that era if he keeps up his current pace
JFedol
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Yea, I'd pick 66 easily as well. Mario made it look easy and effortless and times LMAO.
Yeah that’s a whopping difference and tells you all you need to know about the relative difficulty of scoring.
The current one where he has more goals than anyone since his career began, with fewer games played and less powerplay time than all the other top scorers.
The current one where he has more goals than anyone since his career began, with fewer games played and less powerplay time than all the other top scorers.
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