He is old. If I'm giving up all that I want a player back in Raymond and Seiders age range. Forsberg makes the playoffs for the Wings and maybe win a round. By the time we contend he is like Kane.(age wise) and Forsberg isn't even available. Nashville just made big splashes in FA they aren't trading him for picks unless they go full rebuild which would be the exact opposite of their reasoning 3 months ago...
"Old"
Forsberg is 2 years older than Larkin. People here has wanted more skill and now possibly there is a proven PPG player available. But Forsberg is "old", probably the most HFboards thing to say, when a player turns 30 he's basically dead already.
You gotta have some realism here, no one is trading PPG players in their early 20's. By the time Wings are contending Forsberg could be like Kane or he could be like Pavelski as well. But one thing is certain the 2025 #16OA pick and #18OA pick won't be there to help in anyway, if at all. We know what we get in Forsberg, player in his prime. If there is possibility to get him, there is no point hold back. Trade the picks and that way we get to keep our top prospects.
How many of those prime years are still left? We could very easily be getting Erat'd...
I mean, during the offseason, yeah. Right now we are getting some of the best goaltending in the league with Talbot and Lyon. And we have Cossa/Augustine on tap. Trading for a 29yo with 8 more years on his deal seems like a waste of assets.
Saros will bounce back but you make good points. Wings got great goalie prospects and it's not necessary to trade for Saros. Im patient enough to wait for Cossa. But there is no reason not to trade for Forsberg, if he becomes available. It's not like the Wings have PPG players growing in trees.
Forsberg plays wing even though he's been listed as center his whole career. He's taken less than 100 faceoffs his entire career, which is less than Kasper who has 9 NHL games. This team doesn't need a wing, it needs a 2C.
2 first rounders for a winger? God forbid I agree with NorrisNick, but no freakin' way. People didn't like me harping about Horvat, and that deal (Hronek + Kasper) sounds a heck of a lot more appealing than an aging winger who's an average skater in his prime. By the end of his contract he's gonna be almost as slow as Perron, and his production will drop off like a rock if Compher is his center. We all know Ray, Kane, and DBC struggle with Compher.
The issue with the offense is that Copp/Compher/Kasper/Joey/Raz/Fisher can't create offense. Every winger that's played with Larkin scores more, even guys like Perron, Kubalik, Bert, and no effort Mantha. Look at their stats with and without DBoss. The team needs a 2C, I've been saying it since Z retired. (I'd list them, but it's too depressing)
I haven't heard the grumbling in a while, but saying DBoss isn't a true 1C is ridiculous. You look at that list of wingers, and it's almost Crosby territory as far as raising the game of a mediocre player. Poor kid has never been given much to work with.
You believe that young players can't develop any more? We have 2 good center prospects, whom more than a good chance to become 2C. Within 2 years all the top prospects will be in the lineup, give them couple years time to adjust and there still be couple years left of Forsberg's prime.
You say that we don't need a winger but you also say that our forwards can't create offense, all that Forsberg does is create offence. Big body with great hands and who can protect the puck and Forsberg skates just fine, he's no McDavid but good enough. Horvat is 1 year younger than Forsberg, so he wouldn't age badly as Forsberg? Forsberg could age like Kane/Perron but like i said he could age as Pavelski but certainly those two 1st round picks wouldn't help the Wings until 2030's and that's if they can even make it.
How conveniently you say that Larkin hasn't been given anyone to work with and you also think it's bad idea to trade for Forsberg
. People want the team improved and now possibly there could be a PPG player signed through his prime years available and people are like "nah.. he's old and winger". But sure let's keep daydreaming about Pettersson/Draisaitl and keep complaining about how Larkin's prime is wasted, because there is no skill in the team.