Where did Yzerman go wrong with the rebuild?

Pavels Dog

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If all Stevie does is hit on only his first rounders this team is stuck in mediocreville until Larkin drops off, then we're looking at tanking for a 1C. Let's do a projected roster with the first rounders:

(DBC) - Larkin - Ray
'25 pick - Danielson - MBN
? - Kasper -?
(Mazur) - ? - ?

Ed - Mo
'26 pick - ASP
(AlJo) - ?

Cossa
(Gus)

Looks like a bubble team to me even with 4 players not acquired in the first round. Also explains why I keep saying Danielson has to be a homerun for this team to make the playoffs.
I don't see that makes sense though. Are you expecting a bonafide #1C to come out of the later rounds for us?
The placement of the questionmarks are positions that would be nice to fill with some late round picks, but they are in depth roles. That's not difficult to find in FA or via trade, and we already have guys playing those roles that you for some reason deleted.
 

Gniwder

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I don't see that makes sense though. Are you expecting a bonafide #1C to come out of the later rounds for us?
The placement of the questionmarks are positions that would be nice to fill with some late round picks, but they are in depth roles. That's not difficult to find in FA or via trade, and we already have guys playing those roles that you for some reason deleted.
Yeah, and the team is mediocre. It will continue to be mediocre unless a late round pick turns out to be a homerun, and I'm not seeing it will the current crop of prospects. Stevie needs a Robertson/Datsyuk/Z/Benn/Palat type pick in order to get deep in the playoffs.

Mind you, I liked Plante/Becher/Buch picks, just need more of those instead of Cleveland/Phelan/James/WHipple etc. I don't think any of those I've mentioned are gonna be game breakers. I suppose Finnie is really tearing it up now though.

Based on that lineup, I'm almost certain Stevie goes after a center in the first round this draft. He's gotta start planning for Larkin's decline 3 or so years from now.
 

Henkka

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Yeah, and the team is mediocre. It will continue to be mediocre unless a late round pick turns out to be a homerun, and I'm not seeing it will the current crop of prospects. Stevie needs a Robertson/Datsyuk/Z/Benn/Palat type pick in order to get deep in the playoffs.

Mind you, I liked Plante/Becher/Buch picks, just need more of those instead of Cleveland/Phelan/James/WHipple etc. I don't think any of those I've mentioned are gonna be game breakers. I suppose Finnie is really tearing it up now though.

Based on that lineup, I'm almost certain Stevie goes after a center in the first round this draft. He's gotta start planning for Larkin's decline 3 or so years from now.

Why are thinkin like this? Why it has to be a low round pick?

Four of our 1st rounders aren't on the team yet. MBN, Danielson, ASP, Cossa. Those will make the REAL jump. Low rounders are just wild cards as well as getting decent UFAs.
 

Ulysses31

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guess some ppl half glass empty types, pretty optimistic here. got 2, maybe 3 (asp) 1st pair D. whose to say aljo aint a 4d that could pair with asp or seider if break up ed seider. buium, wallinder, tuomisto potenital to b solid bottom pair d. chance wallinder or buium better than bottom pair

since sy havent hit for certain on a F besides raymond but still a lot of runway. some players b late bloomers. even a guy like ras or berg have more potential imo

then cossa n trey gonna b huge in net
 

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