When will Tony DeAngelo situation get resolved?

[nyr2k2]

I don't think he'd want to come back to this organization, regardless of who's in charge. And Drury was part of the previous regime anyway, so it's not like "everyone is gone" or whatever.

From our perspective, we'll have enough offense from the back end that he'd be surplus to our needs. If he had a great two-way game, different story.

 

[leetch99]

Yup....pretty well all of the above . Turk won't want that kind of foolishness around his locker room no matter how many points he can put up . Maybe we get something in return for him from somebody somewhere and not in our division . I honestly hope he can mature some and put some money away for the rest of his life when he can't make a living playing or has had all the doors shut on him.

 

[Unusual Suspect]

I didn't see "totally don't give a s**t" as a choice so I didn't vote.

 

[GAGLine]

Siri when is the NHL buyout window?

Normally it's the later of June 15th or 48 hours after the SCF ends. This year it's 24 hours after the SCF ends. The last possible day the final can end is July 15th, so the buyout period will begin no later than July 16th. Protection lists are due on July 17th, so all teams will have a chance to buyout players before submitting their protection lists, though I expect that the Rangers will wait and expose DeAngelo in the hopes that Seattle takes him. In the unlikely event that they don't, he will be bought out after.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Normally it's the later of June 15th or 48 hours after the SCF ends. This year it's 24 hours after the SCF ends. The last possible day the final can end is July 15th, so the buyout period will begin no later than July 16th. Protection lists are due on July 17th, so all teams will have a chance to buyout players before submitting their protection lists, though I expect that the Rangers will wait and expose DeAngelo in the hopes that Seattle takes him. In the unlikely event that they don't, he will be bought out after.

That's risky though because you only get 3 buy outs in the 2nd window for the duration of the CBA. We already used one on Shattenkirk and this CBA was extended until at least 2026 with last year's MOU.

That might be a rason to buy him out in the first window.

 

[Ola]

Lindgren-Fox
Trouba-TDA
Miller-Nils

 

[GAGLine]

That's risky though because you only get 3 buy outs in the 2nd window for the duration of the CBA. We already used one on Shattenkirk and this CBA was extended until at least 2026 with last year's MOU.

That might be a rason to buy him out in the first window.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant after the expansion draft, but still during the regular buyout window. That window doesn't end until just before free agency begins.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

Sorry if I wasn't clear. I meant after the expansion draft, but still during the regular buyout window. That window doesn't end until just before free agency begins.

Ah. Gotcha.

 

[BobMarleyNYR]

When Trum is re-instated in August...

 

[Fansince1992]

Why did JG and JD express formally that TD would no longer play for the Rangers after his last altercation? Wouldn't it have made more sense to just trade him rather than air the dirty laundry? They made him untradeable with that press conference. No wonder they both got fired as executives, along with the $14 million in dead salary.

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

All I know is I can't wait for him to be gone so people can finally move on.

 

[SA16]

All I know is I can't wait for him to be gone so people can finally move on.

Brian Boyle hasn't been on the team in 8 years and people still talk about him all the time. Not sure him being gone will help people move on lol

 

[archangel2]

When buyout starts

 

[Edge]

All I know is I can't wait for him to be gone so people can finally move on.

I hope it works that smoothly.

I have my doubts it will.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

I wonder if Francis would take a flyer on him in the expansion draft knowing that RBA will break his thumbs if he gets out of line with them

 

[nyr2k2]

All I know is I can't wait for him to be gone so people can finally move on.

I don't think people will really ever move on from him. It was like a cult of personality with him--a lot of people saw that he stood for things that they themselves felt really passionate about. And then they saw him unceremoniously kicked to the curb, which they of course thought was an absolute travesty of justice, and they equated it with what they felt about the state of the world around them. I think for a lot of people it was about way more than just hockey with him.

It's similar to the Kaepernick thing. You can still see the emotional responses that are generated by any discussion of him. Not to equate the two in terms of character, what they stood for, etc.--just the fact that when people see "their guy" get blackballed for supporting "their politics" (or in DeAngelo's case, just the perception of it, since that's not what actually happened with him) it becomes something lasting that deeply affects people.

 

[tailgunner]

Why did JG and JD express formally that TD would no longer play for the Rangers after his last altercation? Wouldn't it have made more sense to just trade him rather than air the dirty laundry? They made him untradeable with that press conference. No wonder they both got fired as executives, along with the $14 million in dead salary.

yes and yes
I have been screaming this since it happened and TRUE BLUE and EDGE have vilified and molested me in public over this lol

This was the main reason why Dolan fired Gorton, Gorton was totally unprofessional as to how he handled this whole fiasco.
As for JD I think he was fired only because Dolan told JD to fire Gorton and JD refused, otherwise I think JD would of stayed

 

[EdJovanovski]

I don't think people will really ever move on from him. It was like a cult of personality with him--a lot of people saw that he stood for things that they themselves felt really passionate about. And then they saw him unceremoniously kicked to the curb, which they of course thought was an absolute travesty of justice, and they equated it with what they felt about the state of the world around them. I think for a lot of people it was about way more than just hockey with him.

It's similar to the Kaepernick thing. You can still see the emotional responses that are generated by any discussion of him. Not to equate the two in terms of character, what they stood for, etc.--just the fact that when people see "their guy" get blackballed for supporting "their politics" (or in DeAngelo's case, just the perception of it, since that's not what actually happened with him) it becomes something lasting that deeply affects people.

DeAngelo was the 4th leading scoring dman in the NHL, whilst being 5 years younger than anybody ahead of him.
Kaepernick was near the bottom of the league in every statistical category among starting QB’s.

DeAngelo also did not bring politics onto the ice, he still stood for the anthem of Biden’s America, and did not adorn socks depicting law enforcement as animals. He also didn’t wear a shirt of communist dictators who killed tens of thousands of people to team interviews.

Anywho, your assertion is correct about Tony’s ardent fans but is equally true about his ardent haters. None of us know everything that went down behind the scenes, so I’m not going to claim the Rangers handling of him was to do with his politics. But the fact that other teams are scared of the social media backlash if they pick up one of the most productive players in the sport, certainly is. There are players who have done far worse than Tony who do not receive anywhere near the backlash. Scroll through the Twitter or Reddit profiles of the anti-DeAngelo mob or just look at the language they use, and it is abundantly clear what their reason for hating him is.

 

[tailgunner]

for sh*ts and giggles let's play this little game

Rangers finished the season with 60 points and 11 points out of a playoff spot

Let's say Georgiev never gives up the OT goal and there is no altercation with TDA
Where would the Rangers wind up in the standings with TDA in the line-up during a full season ?

Also look how passive and creampuff the team played all year and esp down the stretch
Don't you think with TDA's snarl and aggressiveness that we would of had a better season ?

Gorton weakened the team with his handling of this altercation and it cost him his job.

 

[Levitate]

yes and yes
I have been screaming this since it happened and TRUE BLUE and EDGE have vilified and molested me in public over this lol

This was the main reason why Dolan fired Gorton, Gorton was totally unprofessional as to how he handled this whole fiasco.
As for JD I think he was fired only because Dolan told JD to fire Gorton and JD refused, otherwise I think JD would of stayed

If it was the main reason Gorton was fired then he would have been fired far earlier

Now I'll sit back and wait for you to contort yourself in reasoning why no thats not the case because...

e: while DeAngelo has some snarl he's in now way actually tough enough to make a difference. Trouba and Lindgren are both far more effective than DeAngelo because they actually play physical and nasty and don't just run their mouths and shove people after the whistle.

 

[nyr2k2]

DeAngelo was the 4th leading scoring dman in the NHL, whilst being 5 years younger than anybody ahead of him.
Kaepernick was near the bottom of the league in every statistical category among starting QB’s.

DeAngelo also did not bring politics onto the ice, he still stood for the anthem of Biden’s America, and did not adorn socks depicting law enforcement as animals. He also didn’t wear a shirt of communist dictators who killed tens of thousands of people to team interviews.

Anywho, your assertion is correct about Tony’s ardent fans but is equally true about his ardent haters. None of us know everything that went down behind the scenes, so I’m not going to claim the Rangers handling of him was to do with his politics. But the fact that other teams are scared of the social media backlash if they pick up one of the most productive players in the sport, certainly is. There are players who have done far worse than Tony who do not receive anywhere near the backlash. Scroll through the Twitter or Reddit profiles of the anti-DeAngelo mob or just look at the language they use, and it is abundantly clear what their reason for hating him is.

I'm not going to go tit-for-tat with you here because it's irrelevant to the actual topic at hand, but your impassioned response and defense of the guy is basically my point encapsulated. People will never get over it.

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

for sh*ts and giggles let's play this little game

Rangers finished the season with 60 points and 11 points out of a playoff spot

Let's say Georgiev never gives up the OT goal and there is no altercation with TDA
Where would the Rangers wind up in the standings with TDA in the line-up during a full season ?

Also look how passive and creampuff the team played all year and esp down the stretch
Don't you think with TDA's snarl and aggressiveness that we would of had a better season ?

Gorton weakened the team with his handling of this altercation and it cost him his job.

So much hyperbole....

 

[and 99 others]

for sh*ts and giggles let's play this little game

Let's say Georgiev never gives up the OT goal and there is no altercation with TDA
Where would the Rangers wind up in the standings with TDA in the line-up during a full season ?

Rangers would've been caved in defensively and would have given up the most goals in the division. Next hypothetical question please.

 

[Deleted member 23124]

All I know is I can't wait for him to be gone so people can finally move on.

I seem to recall a similar sentiment about Avery.

 

[dshea19]

The thing I liked most about TD was his potential trade value. His lack of defensive game made me look at him as a someone not long for the team. I do think the Rangers didn't do themselves any favors in how they handled things, but I also don't know the general interest around the league in TD. However, the largest burden lays at Tony's feet for going after a teammate. Tony's biggest problem was his mouth. Lots of loud mouth idiots on both sides of the political fence, so his politics weren't the problem as much as his personality was the issue.