When will Tony DeAngelo situation get resolved?

[LokiDog]

Lirl I just realized you actually can bookmark posts on here.

Now all we need are alerts for when a poster is wrong.

I’ll take the wager.

 

[Cmox]

I apologize if this was posted

Now I know to say my real position if ever asked ( goalie)

 

[eco's bones]

I googled ‘Charles Dolan Donald Trump’ and both Charles and Jimmy (NY Rangers owner) donated $125 K each to Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign. I don’t think that Tony’s political ideology had anything to do with the Rangers dumping him per se apart from being asked/told to keep his political viewpoints from becoming contentious in the Rangers locker room….and apparently that was too hard for him to do…..but I also suspect that there were reasons apart from his political ideology and some of those hockey related. For instance he sulked after being scratched for two games and it all culminated in his fight with Georgiev.

But anyway there are unknowns to the situation which leaves room for speculation…..among which a trail of incidents going all the way back to his CHL days.

 

[nyr2k2]

I googled ‘Charles Dolan Donald Trump’ and both Charles and Jimmy (NY Rangers owner) donated $125 K each to Trump’s 2020 re-election campaign. I don’t think that Tony’s political ideology had anything to do with the Rangers dumping him per se apart from being asked/told to keep his political viewpoints from becoming contentious in the Rangers locker room….and apparently that was too hard for him to do…..but I also suspect that there were reasons apart from his political ideology and some of those hockey related. For instance he sulked after being scratched for two games and it all culminated in his fight with Georgiev.

But anyway there are unknowns to the situation which leaves room for speculation…..among which a trail of incidents going all the way back to his CHL days.

Right, it clearly wasn't his politics that got him shitcanned. The league, our team, totally filled with rich (and in many cases old) white guys. Not typically the most progressive bunch out there, LOL. (No offense to some of our posters here who may fit that description that I love!)

What's been written publicly and what's been said "off-line" is that his politics alone weren't a problem but it was the fact that he always wanted you to know about them that was, and it rubbed some of the other guys the wrong way. The social media stuff wasn't viewed as a huge problem in a vacuum but the fact that it had to be addressed repeatedly was. And then there was generally being a hothead and immature, and he was basically put on notice by the team that it was strike two-and-a-half. So when he chirped Georgiev and it got physical, even though that was a not totally uncommon situation, it was just seen as an extension of the behavioral issues that the team had constantly been dealing with. So, they said "enough is enough" and pulled the plug.

The idea that simply being an outspoken supporter of the previous president or of conservative causes was what cost Tony his job seemed totally ridiculous at the time, and now it's confirmed to be false and ridiculous. Had he done everything he did but as a lefty, he'd apparently have found himself in the same spot.

I hate that this thread popped back up because I feel like I'm wasting keystrokes on this guy. I'm sorry it didn't work out and/or that we couldn't get assets back for him, but unfortunately, that's on the player and sometimes that happens.

 

[leetch99]

They didn't want the entire contract. 100% for what would have been a year and three-quarters.

Much better chance for a deal at 50% for a reduced term.

Plus I figure Bobbop....the timing had something to do with things . I think teams are /will be more flexible in their spending at the start of a season versus the around playoff thinking time with his addition to a dressing room .

I as well think there will be a market for his services albeit likely not as much as we would have hoped for . Somebody will find a spot for his 50-60 point contribution along with being a PP QB . He could easily be the difference in getting a team into the playoffs and if he blows off again...could turn things upside down as well....the risk you take .

 

[Shesterkybomb]

Imo the only teams that might take a cheap flyer on Deangelo are teams with strong leadership, I'm looking at teams like Boston or Pitsburgh. He's gonna have to take a prove it contract after his buyout.

 

[Vitto79]

Is the first buyout before expansion ?

 

[cwede]

Is the first buyout before expansion ?

begins just after Cup awarded, ends July 27, so it overlaps

 

[Jaromir Jagr]

I seem to recall a similar sentiment about Avery.

Avery is actually a perfect example. Look at what he is today in his post-career life. A big-mouth, troublemaker, who appears pathetic and desperate on his various social media outlets. While I do hope Tony gets his shit together and develops into a quality teammate and person, my guess is he will follow much of a similar path.

I still cringe whenever I see people with Avery avatars on here.

 

[NYSPORTS]

Avery is actually a perfect example. Look at what he is today in his post-career life. A big-mouth, troublemaker, who appears pathetic and desperate on his various social media outlets. While I do hope Tony gets his shit together and develops into a quality teammate and person, my guess is he will follow much of a similar path.

I still cringe whenever I see people with Avery avatars on here.

never liked him. Unlike the great talkers on the ice who are nice people off the nice, this creep is the real deal.

 

[bobbop]

If Doug Hamilton leaves Carolina, that may be a destination for ADA. That organization loves undervalued assets.

 

[LetsGoRangers2021]

I get that Tony is capable of putting up a lot of points but all his production did not make him a good defenseman. His defensive game was weak.

I don’t think the Rangers had a problem so much with Tony’s political beliefs (FWIW I’ve read that Jimmy Dolan’s father Charles was a big contributor to Trump’s presidential runs)—the problem was he wouldn’t when asked ‘tone it down’ and had become a for real locker room distraction. There may have been other issues but the fight with Georgiev climaxed everything.

I agree with this. A d*ck is a d*ck, left or right. From all accounts, even his own twitter account, TDA is a d*ck who has been choking on his own since juniors. Good riddance.

 

[jay from jersey]

Imo the only teams that might take a cheap flyer on Deangelo are teams with strong leadership, I'm looking at teams like Boston or Pitsburgh. He's gonna have to take a prove it contract after his buyout.

he’ll be gone first chance they get to buy him out where it isn’t too hard on the cap. He will def draw interest. The habs wanted him just not at that salary. There’s a good 8-10 teams that his skillset is needed and would help them a lot with offense from the backend. I 100% expect him back in the league on a 1yr 1-1.5 mill show me deal

 

[Machinehead]

I apologize if this was posted

Now I know to say my real position if ever asked ( goalie)

This is amazing. As a professor, I would give points for this.

 

[tbassler]

Right, it clearly wasn't his politics that got him shitcanned. The league, our team, totally filled with rich (and in many cases old) white guys. Not typically the most progressive bunch out there, LOL. (No offense to some of our posters here who may fit that description that I love!)

What's been written publicly and what's been said "off-line" is that his politics alone weren't a problem but it was the fact that he always wanted you to know about them that was, and it rubbed some of the other guys the wrong way. The social media stuff wasn't viewed as a huge problem in a vacuum but the fact that it had to be addressed repeatedly was. And then there was generally being a hothead and immature, and he was basically put on notice by the team that it was strike two-and-a-half. So when he chirped Georgiev and it got physical, even though that was a not totally uncommon situation, it was just seen as an extension of the behavioral issues that the team had constantly been dealing with. So, they said "enough is enough" and pulled the plug.

The idea that simply being an outspoken supporter of the previous president or of conservative causes was what cost Tony his job seemed totally ridiculous at the time, and now it's confirmed to be false and ridiculous. Had he done everything he did but as a lefty, he'd apparently have found himself in the same spot.

I hate that this thread popped back up because I feel like I'm wasting keystrokes on this guy. I'm sorry it didn't work out and/or that we couldn't get assets back for him, but unfortunately, that's on the player and sometimes that happens.

It is when sucker-punched Georgiev's blocker with his face that did him in.

 

[cwede]

...I hate that this thread popped back up...

this was my doing, sorry for the distraction,
i wondered, with new FO and coach,
whether anything might change, re the team's position
the universal expectation remains buy-out immediately after ED

 

[SML2]

Imo the only teams that might take a cheap flyer on Deangelo are teams with strong leadership, I'm looking at teams like Boston or Pitsburgh. He's gonna have to take a prove it contract after his buyout.

IMO, every Canadian team is in on ADA the second he is free to talk contract.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I can't wait to never hear about this guy and David Quinn ever again. Do Rangers fans ever still talk about Tom Webster?

 

[McSauer]

I can't wait to never hear about this guy and David Quinn ever again. Do Rangers fans ever still talk about Tom Webster?

Same.

I read the thread title just now and was like 'Shit's already been resolved.'

 

[Doctyl]

Is the first buyout before expansion ?

Why would we buy him out? His cap hit isn’t in the way of anything this year and a buyout will be more in the way of the future than just letting him rot for this year.

if someone wants him trade him, if not f*** it who cares what this piece of shit does

 

[GAGLine]

Why would we buy him out? His cap hit isn’t in the way of anything this year and a buyout will be more in the way of the future than just letting him rot for this year.

if someone wants him trade him, if not f*** it who cares what this piece of shit does

His buyout is super cheap because of his age.

If someone wants to trade for him, or Seattle wants to take him, great. If not, he will be bought out. The Rangers aren't going to make him sit the entire year.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

I don't see any economic reason for other teams to trade assets for TDA.

Just wait for the buyout, get into a little bidding war.

Absolutely no reason for NYR to retain money in a potential trade, since it's a higher cap hit then buying him out.

 

[ponzu4u]

Why would we buy him out? His cap hit isn’t in the way of anything this year and a buyout will be more in the way of the future than just letting him rot for this year.

if someone wants him trade him, if not f*** it who cares what this piece of shit does

I was wondering this same thing actually, but I guess maybe the players union would step in if the Rangers just didn't buy him out and asked him to stay home another season?

Like, unless there is a big cap issue for this upcoming season - which I'm pretty sure there's not - why would we buy him out and let him go to another team - potentially a needy division rival like the Penguins - for nothing?

 

[chosen]

Avery is actually a perfect example. Look at what he is today in his post-career life. A big-mouth, troublemaker, who appears pathetic and desperate on his various social media outlets. While I do hope Tony gets his shit together and develops into a quality teammate and person, my guess is he will follow much of a similar path.

I still cringe whenever I see people with Avery avatars on here.

People very rarely change.

Nice kids usually become nice adults.

Ahole kids usually become ahole adults.

 

[Miamipuck]

I thought it was resolved the minute the Rangers said GTFO.