Nobody here misses Pionk. He was the whipping boy on this board before he was moved. He is a good player; Trouba is better; significantly better. the toughness and grit that Trouba brings, especially in tough games against big teams is nowhere in Pionk's skill set although I did see him hammer Draisaitl the other day. I don't think he does alot of that; he didn't here.
When will Tony DeAngelo situation get resolved?
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Don't think it is happening anytime soon. Teams that can fit him under the cap, could have had him already and passed. If a team was willing to take him in exchange for a bad contract that the Rangers could take for this year, it would have happened by now. Not interested, and I don't think Gorton is either, in someone like Yandle with another 2 years on his deal. Considering the cheap buy-out there is no motivation for the Rangers to eat any salary next season. MAYBE, someone takes him at the deadline when the cap hit is less, but with the quarantine rules, expecting deadline to be quiet this year. So, the scenario I see is he rots this year. They expose him to Seattle, although people here thought I was crazy for thinking they would do so, and when he is not taken, he gets bought out within an hour of that window opening.
McKenzie the other day said he thinks in a few weeks when the news on him has died down, but I dont even see that happening.
McKenzie the other day said he thinks in a few weeks when the news on him has died down, but I dont even see that happening.
By all accounts, they tried to move him in off-season and couldn't get much. Only place DeAngelo was fetching a nice return was on this board and Rangers Twitter. Unfortunately, no other GM's are part of those communities.
What it will take is a long term injury to a right defenseman on a contending team. Say if a Jacob Trouba type player is out 4-6 weeks then a team will have interest.
Wait a minute! Isn’t Trouba is out 4-6 weeks. Maybe the Rangers would be interested in trading for DeAngelo.
Oh, never mind...
Wait a minute! Isn’t Trouba is out 4-6 weeks. Maybe the Rangers would be interested in trading for DeAngelo.
Oh, never mind...
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I have feeling Rangers were preparing for D'Angelo arbitration and compiled and dug up a lot of dirt on him to win the potential case, and then started to hate him.
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NickyFotiu
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Would help if they were really clear about what he did.
He had a bad attitude after being benched?
He is a conservative on twitter?
He made a bad comment to the goalie?
The goalie hit him (not vice versa)?
That sounds like a bunch of mild sauce.
He had a bad attitude after being benched?
He is a conservative on twitter?
He made a bad comment to the goalie?
The goalie hit him (not vice versa)?
That sounds like a bunch of mild sauce.
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He continually brought politics into the lockerroom, and instigated arguments with teammates.
Despite being told to leave it at the door (by teammates and management) he just kept getting worse, because since he had signed his big contract, he felt bulletproof.
He frequently commented on how racism is overblown or whatever the popular terminology is of the day, all the while Miller sat next to him having recently had somebody bombard him with the 'N' word during an interview.
He instigated a fight with our backup goalie, and then tried to choke him.
The guy is a f***ing jackass, and I don't want him in the room as a terrible example of professionalism to Kakko, Lafreniere, Chytil, Miller, Howden, and whatever other kids eventually make the Rangers and hopefully lead us to many successful years.
edit - plus, he was garbage to start the season anyway, just like most of the team.
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Please post real sources to what is in bold above. Not biased blogs. I'm not saying it is not true but what was reported originally turned out to not be true.
A hit job blog regarding KAM and his puck turned out not to be true as well. KAM agent said he never had a problem with TD.
Is making a critical comment instigating a fight? Guys make snide comments in locker rooms all the time. The guy that actually got physical did not start the fight?
I'm not saying TD is a great guy to have around but I get the feeling if he was not a conservative on Twitter all of this would be no big deal for most players.
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I would just like to ask, what does that tell you?
Does it tell you that an organization who traded for ADA, gave him minutes and watched him grow last year, then gave him at least a two year contract to remain on the team all while knowing his possible shortcomings, a team owned by a prominent Trump donor, a team that has many people in the org and in the room who have similar feelings as ADA on politics, a group of guys that actually liked ADA, a coach that liked ADA, just decided to throw an asset away over basically nothing?
or
As was said in the movie 'A Bronx Tale', C: "Was that fight really over a parking space?" Carmine, "No"
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BTW, the source for most of the bolded that Harbour Dog posted was Edge and he posted what he got from his sources after ADA was waived.
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@Edge is the source. Take it or leave it
The puck thing was made up, yeah. At the time, Edge said that it may have been leaked by Gorton to see who was spilling info to Herman. But that's just supposition.
I'm admittedly a very liberal person, but if somebody with my views was constantly shitting on ADA, Fox, and Lemieux about it, and wouldn't stop despite teammates (Trouba) interjecting multiple times, as well as management. And then shit on a goalie after a bad game, causing a fight; I'd be saying the exact same thing.
edit - and ADA was warned by management that he was on his last straw. In a logical world he should have been the last person to get involved in a fight. Even if you want to say that it was Georgiev's fault (who has no past history of being a jackass to teammates), ADA was still involved in creating a mess for the lockerroom to deal with.
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Also, as an aside, if either Zibanejad or Kreider were a strong leader, you would have expected one of them to talk to ADA about his behaviour; not Trouba.
So many signs point to us having a weak leadership core right now.
So many signs point to us having a weak leadership core right now.
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What does someone say to what I assume is like the NHL version of Marjorie Taylor Greene in the locker room?
Once any semblance of rational thought has left the building it's no longer within the purview of any amateur psychologists to handle even if they are considered leaders within the room.
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Originally I said it would help for the team to say what AD did. I say that because I believe not saying exactly what AD did leads to rumors which may or may not be true. If I missed something I apologize but the only thing I have seen in your post that was verified by the team was that Gorton warned AD before the goalie incident. All the other stuff could be 100% true, 50% true, 20% true or not true. That doesn't help the situation in trading him. Just like that phony blog didn't help the situation for trading him. I think Gorton should just say this is what happened and then let teams decide if its too much or not.@Edge is the source. Take it or leave it
The puck thing was made up, yeah. At the time, Edge said that it may have been leaked by Gorton to see who was spilling info to Herman. But that's just supposition.
I'm admittedly a very liberal person, but if somebody with my views was constantly shitting on ADA, Fox, and Lemieux about it, and wouldn't stop despite teammates (Trouba) interjecting multiple times, as well as management. And then shit on a goalie after a bad game, causing a fight; I'd be saying the exact same thing.
edit - and ADA was warned by management that he was on his last straw. In a logical world he should have been the last person to get involved in a fight. Even if you want to say that it was Georgiev's fault (who has no past history of being a jackass to teammates), ADA was still involved in creating a mess for the lockerroom to deal with.
@Edge is the source. Take it or leave it
The puck thing was made up, yeah. At the time, Edge said that it may have been leaked by Gorton to see who was spilling info to Herman. But that's just supposition.
I'm admittedly a very liberal person, but if somebody with my views was constantly shitting on ADA, Fox, and Lemieux about it, and wouldn't stop despite teammates (Trouba) interjecting multiple times, as well as management. And then shit on a goalie after a bad game, causing a fight; I'd be saying the exact same thing.
edit - and ADA was warned by management that he was on his last straw. In a logical world he should have been the last person to get involved in a fight. Even if you want to say that it was Georgiev's fault (who has no past history of being a jackass to teammates), ADA was still involved in creating a mess for the lockerroom to deal with.
Edge was not there in the locker room, he heard it from his source. Maybe Gorton wanted to see who is leaking info to Edge. Or maybe his source doesn't like ADA and wanted to put an extra twist on the facts.
from this article the main issues were:
1. he got into some argument with some troll fan on twitter
2. he sometimes gets frustrated or emotional and yells at the coaches
https://nypost.com/2021/02/13/ex-rangers-player-tony-deangelo-bares-soul-in-interview/
but I completely agree the way they handled it and spread false hideous rumors makes DeAngelo look much worse than what really happened.
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Yeah, I can see where you're coming from here.
Though, I do put nearly complete faith in Edge's summation of the events.
I assume we will get an official statement on most of what went down once ADA is moved. Perhaps when we do, we'll see that there was some things that were just not possible to spin positively for potential suitors. And perhaps we won't. Gorton is nothing if not tight-lipped.
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Why was I asked by the site, if I truly want to like a certain post? ... wierd.
Speaking straight to my soul here. This is the crux of it. Tony fell to deep into the rabbit hole.
Speaking straight to my soul here. This is the crux of it. Tony fell to deep into the rabbit hole.
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Why can't Trouba be a strong leader?
Have you looked at his resume?
I mean, he hasn't been great on the ice but I assume (& maybe I am incorrect here) he was given the A for a reason other than his contract w a NTC in it.
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Cant get resolved soon enough, sounds like Rangers have moved on as has Deangelo, time for fans to move on.
People are frustrated we dont know exactly what has transpired, but it seems as though theres been enough smoke to tell theres been a fire of some sort.
He's talented but already at the age of only 25, THREE Nhl teams have already decided he isnt worth the distraction, I dont know what else needs to be said. A lot of fans just dont want to acknowledge this or his history even before the NHL
People are frustrated we dont know exactly what has transpired, but it seems as though theres been enough smoke to tell theres been a fire of some sort.
He's talented but already at the age of only 25, THREE Nhl teams have already decided he isnt worth the distraction, I dont know what else needs to be said. A lot of fans just dont want to acknowledge this or his history even before the NHL
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