When does Zibanejad sign, and for how much?

[nyr2k2]

Labels and all that are fine. He can consider himself the #1C. If it goes to arbitration what's going to matter is production and comparables. That's really what matters in negotiations as well. If he says he's the 1C, he's worth $6M, the team just comes back and says well that's all well and good, but someone like Palat who has been more productive took less money than that so you're not getting $6M. Then it basically becomes a standoff--who blinks first? I'd wager that with some of the recent deals Zibanejad knows what he can get, knows what he's worth, and regardless of his projected role ends up taking something like $5.2 per.

 

[GordonGecko]

5 days to arb day, I would think this is Gort's focus right now and they are currently negotiating. Maybe we get an announcement on Monday


List of all players who filed for arbitration w/ arb date:
https://www.nhl.com/news/30-nhl-players-file-for-salary-arbitration/c-290306750

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[RangerBoy]

Mika will not cost less than Brassard in a long term contract. 6 years younger.

 

[Leonardo87]

The second Stepan got traded, in Zib's mind, he became the teams 1C, and is probably asking at least $500K more per yr, probably causing the delay in signing. He has more leverage than he did before...just my thought.

Problem is I don't see Mika being a 1C though. Think he will be an excellent 2C, but Rangers still need that guy, like a Taveras or Malkin type to take this team to new heights. They need a guy who is going to put up 30 plus goals, and 60 plus points, even closer to 70 points. I see him being more of what Stepan was maybe with a higher upside, but being cheaper of course. If he is the 1C. Who is the 2C? Kevin Hayes? That is kinda scary.

 

[TheTakedown]

Problem is I don't see Mika being a 1C though. Think he will be an excellent 2C, but Rangers still need that guy, like a Taveras or Malkin type to take this team to new heights. They need a guy who is going to put up 30 plus goals, and 60 plus points, even closer to 70 points. I see him being more of what Stepan was maybe with a higher upside, but being cheaper of course. If he is the 1C. Who is the 2C? Kevin Hayes? That is kinda scary.

you realize the only thing that separated Stepan from a "70 point guy" was a whopping 15 points, right?

Zibanejad can be a 60 point player at minimum--he has the tools to do it. Barring any major set back, I think he's due to break out this year. We saw Kreider finally do it last year. Rangers have a really good forward set up right now.

Kreider - 60+ Points
Zib - 55+ Points, more likely 60-65 points
Miller - 50+ points
Zucc - 50+ points
Vesey - 40+ points
Hayes - Even in his worst year, was a 50 point guy

I am not against obtaining a guy like Tavares for just $, and then trading Hayes away for elite wing or defensive prospects on the cusp, however we're still a year away from that even being feasible from happening.

 

[Levitate]

Problem is I don't see Mika being a 1C though. Think he will be an excellent 2C, but Rangers still need that guy, like a Taveras or Malkin type to take this team to new heights. They need a guy who is going to put up 30 plus goals, and 60 plus points, even closer to 70 points. I see him being more of what Stepan was maybe with a higher upside, but being cheaper of course. If he is the 1C. Who is the 2C? Kevin Hayes? That is kinda scary.

If Hayes can put up around 50 points again while playing 2nd pair minutes that's 2C territory. I'm not the biggest fan of him having to play harder minutes since I'm concerned he struggles to produce against tougher competition, but if he can not bleed shots against and put up about 50 points that's perfectly acceptable

e:

Hayes - Even in his worst year, was a 50 point guy

Uh, his worst year offensively was 36 points. 45 in his rookie year, 36 in his sophomore, 49 last season. As I said if he can keep it around 50 points and not be a defensive disaster then that works out just fine. But that's the big IF

 

[Leonardo87]

Yeah good points. If the Rangers have 3 - 2C guys that's not bad at all. Some teams may have that top 1C but then it drops off a lot as you go down the lineup. Rangers depth was one of their strengths last season so just hope they can continue that up and down the lineup.

 

[TheTakedown]

If Hayes can put up around 50 points again while playing 2nd pair minutes that's 2C territory. I'm not the biggest fan of him having to play harder minutes since I'm concerned he struggles to produce against tougher competition, but if he can not bleed shots against and put up about 50 points that's perfectly acceptable

e:

Uh, his worst year offensively was 36 points. 45 in his rookie year, 36 in his sophomore, 49 last season. As I said if he can keep it around 50 points and not be a defensive disaster then that works out just fine. But that's the big IF

By worst year for Hayes, I meant his possession numbers.. Sorry

Yeah good points. If the Rangers have 3 - 2C guys that's not bad at all. Some teams may have that top 1C but then it drops off a lot as you go down the lineup. Rangers depth was one of their strengths last season so just hope they can continue that up and down the lineup.

Very true... look at the other teams that have tanked and gotten two elite talents--Chicago specifically comes to mind. 3 cups is great but they are going to pay for it with those two $10.5M contracts

 

[nyr2k2]

I would gladly pay whatever penalty to win 3 Cups in a decade.

 

[Fugazy]

I would gladly pay whatever penalty to win 3 Cups in a decade.

Anyone would sign up for that

 

[Lindberg Cheese]

Does a 1/2 brother get 1/2 an agents commission?

 

[BBKers]

Anyone would sign up for that

Nah. Results are overrated. All that matters is when we get the best prospect pool in the league with 25 picks in the next draft. Then And only then will I be lividly satisfied

 

[Griffinbw]

My prediction:
5.4x5 with a m-NTC.

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I always said I expect him to get a bit more than Kreider. 4.85m/5y

 

[Casper The Soy Ghost]

5-6 years @$5.5M.

 

[nevesis]

 

[RangerBoy]

Midpoint is $4.725M for a one year deal. A number close to $5.35M will get a long term contract.

 

[LaffyTaffyNYR]

5.25M per over 5 years.

 

[Hockeyholic]

Rangers need Zibby more than Zibby needs Rangers. They need to do what it takes to lock him up.

 

[Irishguy42]

Lower ask than expected. Awesome.

 

[Boruto]

might we merge the two threads or close this one? It's getting close enough to the arb date that it's roster buildy enough.

 

[nyr2k2]

might we merge the two threads or close this one? It's getting close enough to the arb date that it's roster buildy enough.

I'd much rather be able to read about the Zibanejad situation without having to read all the fantasy proposals and other silliness of the roster building thread.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Rangers need Zibby more than Zibby needs Rangers. They need to do what it takes to lock him up.

He is a RFA. We have the leverage. Look what happened with Trouba.

4-5 years should be our max for all contracts in my opinion.
4.7mill-5.1 mill should be our max for Zibs.

Johnson signed for 5 mill. He has proven more.

 

[boxhamster]

A Contract like Viktor Arvidsson would be very cool.