What's Treliving first deal going to be?

PROUD PAPA

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It's too bad Treliving doesn't have a year to assess the team and hold preliminary contract discussions etc. before so many important timeline clocks strike midnight. He's actually in a tough spot right now despite taking over a quality team.
 

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I don't know this for a fact but I just know it's true.

With Doan now on board giving Matthews the bunny blanket and confidential ally he lost with the Dubas departure. Feeling really confident again he has contacted Trees and outlined his plan for the Toronto Maple Leafs.

Auston knowing that the structure needs to change and because Will never lifts him out of any slumps hes ever had, has told Trees that its Will that can now be moved and replaced by whoever. Auston has also informed the GM that all the money that is now saved will help with the pay raise he so richly deserves. Afterall he did as everyone has witnessed won the Leafs first playoff round in like a long time, and that coupled with the 2 Rockets, the Lindsay(whoever that guy was) and of course the MVP trophy, is certainly worth a 2 yr 15m, at which time the cap should go up and 18.5m a year won't be out of the question, or maybe just have 18 players and Auston gets 25m per year, and oh yeah Brian(my dad ya jabroni) also gets the head scouts job and 5m per year

Auston would also like that Rockets trophy be renamed to like the Falcon Heavy or perhaps SpaceX trophy, cause that's some cool stuff right there, also because nobody knows who that Hart guy was either, the MVP trophy also gets renamed to the BiebsBestBelt and make it like a WWE Champs belt, it'll be cool and the bros will dig it. Also can we get someone to remind me when the seasons over so I can quit trying so hard.
 

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Getting Shane Doan to me reeks of a situation where they think AM will leave or at least is non committal about staying. I hope it doesn't work out that way but it sure looks ugly as far as pacifying AM.
 

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Trade his ass as soon as possible and get the best you can for him plus the cap space that you can use properly to get players with skill, grit and heart
 

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Getting Shane Doan to me reeks of a situation where they think AM will leave or at least is non committal about staying. I hope it doesn't work out that way but it sure looks ugly as far as pacifying AM.
If he’s set on moving on, hiring Doan wouldn’t change a thing. He’s not going to change his plan because somebody he knows got a job with the Leafs.
 

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We need some heavy fast players that is great in board battles. And a great defensive D that takes on a lot of minutes. oh yeah a goalie... And get rid of Tavares somehow. That would be great...

Cant they write more exiting deals. If we dont get to the finals half the team gets swapped out and the rest only a half salary, until we reach the finals. That would be exciting...
 

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I just want to keep repeating "past behaviours are not necessarily indicators of future ones" when it comes to GMs going to another team.

Case in point: Peter Chiarelli.

just because Treliving did something in CGY, doesn't mean he wants to recreate it with an entirely different core in TOR.
 

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Getting Shane Doan to me reeks of a situation where they think AM will leave or at least is non committal about staying. I hope it doesn't work out that way but it sure looks ugly as far as pacifying AM.
The best thing for tye leafs is to know what the core 4 intentions are..
If done helps tre not get geadreaud then more power too us
U can't have these guys walking for free
If they do Shame on shanahan
 

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It's too bad Treliving doesn't have a year to assess the team and hold preliminary contract discussions etc. before so many important timeline clocks strike midnight. He's actually in a tough spot right now despite taking over a quality team.
Just to be clear, they have only proven to be a "regular season" quality team. Will this FINALLY be the year?
 

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Getting Shane Doan to me reeks of a situation where they think AM will leave or at least is non committal about staying. I hope it doesn't work out that way but it sure looks ugly as far as pacifying AM.
At least, once this plays out, we will know whether those contracts were solely on Dubas (very doubtful), or on Shanny AND MLSE. I have really began to think it's on the latter.
 
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If he’s set on moving on, hiring Doan wouldn’t change a thing. He’s not going to change his plan because somebody he knows got a job with the Leafs.
I really like the fact they hired Doan. Loved him as a player. Add to that he has had some managerial experience with Team Canada by assisting Yzerman and Armstrong a few times. And I believe Matthews will listen to Doan, not that it would change his mind if he's thinking about leaving after this year. But Matthews idolized Doan when he was growing up, so Tre having Doan with him when he talks to Matthews will certainly make a difference.
 

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Hopefully it's trading Matthews after he demands 3 years @ 15 mil.
I have a theory I'm going to throw out for discussion. First, a little background. Before I retired I had to deal with mechanical and other trades contractors to job out work. On some particularly difficult jobs they would give me an outrageous price, what I used to call the "I don't wanna do that job" price.

I think Matthews is doing just that...
 

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I have a theory I'm going to throw out for discussion. First, a little background. Before I retired I had to deal with mechanical and other trades contractors to job out work. On some particularly difficult jobs they would give me an outrageous price, what I used to call the "I don't wanna do that job" price.

I think Matthews is doing just that...
I don’t want to stay so I ask for 14 x 3.
If you accept you’re a fool and I can go in 3 years.
If you don’t, you’re the bad guy for letting me walk.
Win - Win.
 

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I don’t want to stay so I ask for 14 x 3.
If you accept you’re a fool and I can go in 3 years.
If you don’t, you’re the bad guy for letting me walk.
Win - Win.
Leafs probably give him 14x3. If Matty is all about the money, no better place to go than to stay in Toronto IMO. I do not think he is Gaudreau who took less money to sign with Columbus because he wanted out of Calgary. Hard to find a team that can and will pay him more than the Leafs.
 

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I have a theory I'm going to throw out for discussion. First, a little background. Before I retired I had to deal with mechanical and other trades contractors to job out work. On some particularly difficult jobs they would give me an outrageous price, what I used to call the "I don't wanna do that job" price.

I think Matthews is doing just that...
That doesn't make sense. He doesn't need to play games, he'll just leave.
 
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I have a theory I'm going to throw out for discussion. First, a little background. Before I retired I had to deal with mechanical and other trades contractors to job out work. On some particularly difficult jobs they would give me an outrageous price, what I used to call the "I don't wanna do that job" price.

I think Matthews is doing just that...
We do that in logistics on hard lanes to cover. Give a ridiculous price and if customer books then we make good money on it to cover how difficult it is to cover that lane. We call it the go away price.
 

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Ask yourself does LV or Fla have any elite players that resemble our top 4? Is there one player in our top 5 that pressures the puck the way LV or Fla does? Is there a soft elite scoring winger on LV/Fla? A soft elite scoring center on LV/Fla? We got two of each. They have zero of each. Tkachuk had a cracked sternum and still played 2 periods, his brother had to help him out of bed before the game. Would Willie, JT, Marner or Matty have the same insane drive to win?

It's not the skill level that is the problem here, its the drive to not lose. You have to hate to lose more than you love to win, if you want to be a champion. I've coached for well over 4 decades, I've had championship teams and I've had bottom dwellers. The difference between the two in every case, on the championship teams I have a handful of guys who hate to lose and will drag the rest of the team into their fight. Every team that I've coached has had really talented, athletic players, not every team had that group of competitors that hates to lose. There is an abnormal focus that those guys have that is hard to explain, you know it when you see it.

Now ask yourself what should Tre's focus be?
 

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Trade his ass as soon as possible and get the best you can for him plus the cap space that you can use properly to get players with skill, grit and heart
Agreed...

We do that in logistics on hard lanes to cover. Give a ridiculous price and if customer books then we make good money on it to cover how difficult it is to cover that lane. We call it the go away price.
It does make sense...
 

Hellcat

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I have a theory I'm going to throw out for discussion. First, a little background. Before I retired I had to deal with mechanical and other trades contractors to job out work. On some particularly difficult jobs they would give me an outrageous price, what I used to call the "I don't wanna do that job" price.

I think Matthews is doing just that...

Which is what Gaudreau did in Calgary - if Tre lets Matty or Nylander walk him to July 1st with out a contract extension, after going through what he went through with Johnny, that IMO disqualifies Tre from being our GM.

Pretty simple, if I was in Tre's position, I'm working the phones to find out what I can get for Matty and Willie, I make sure that somehow it leaks that I'm shopping them, I tell them they have till June 29th to come to a mutually agreeable contract extension or I will have to move forward WITHOUT THEM.

For the record Willie Nylander's agent is the very same agent who represents Johnny Gaudreau, the very same agent who let Tre to believe that Johnny wanted to resign in Calgary...until he didn't.

Fool me once...
 

rumman

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I have a theory I'm going to throw out for discussion. First, a little background. Before I retired I had to deal with mechanical and other trades contractors to job out work. On some particularly difficult jobs they would give me an outrageous price, what I used to call the "I don't wanna do that job" price.

I think Matthews is doing just that...
In hindsight it’s what Dubas just did, to the Leafs. On a side note, I also dealt with the trades and this tactic is commonplace, it’s why you never take the lowest bid. The construction triangle is good, fast, and cheap. You can have any two corners, but not all three………..
 

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