What's Treliving first deal going to be?

myleafs

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his 1st deal, will be Matthews.
That needs to be finalized before UFA day, if not signed, he 'should' be dealt.
Otherwise, it will be a trade of picks at the draft.
as far as July 1st on, a UFA D-man will be his #1 signing, and as long as it isnt Holl, i dont care who he signs, as he's okay at signing D-men
Holl to Pitts all but guaranteed imo
 

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Treliving should be following this 3 step plan:

1. Trade for Hellebyuck.
2. Watch the team go deep.
3. Bask in your own smashing success.

Just 1 thing with hellebuyck, winnipeg dont want to rebuild and winnipeg want NHL player... who leafs can send to Winnipeg for hellebuyck and making sense for winnipeg outside of top 4 and rielly?... Knies? Liljegren...i dont really know what leafs having available who can interest winnipeg

Thats why i think the best fit is Gibson
 

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Just 1 thing with hellebuyck, winnipeg dont want to rebuild and winnipeg want NHL player... who leafs can send to Winnipeg for hellebuyck and making sense for winnipeg outside of top 4 and rielly?... Knies? Liljegren...i dont really know what leafs having available who can interest winnipeg

Thats why i think the best fit is Gibson
Gibson would be a huge question mark. Are his numbers lower these past few years due to playing with some really bad Anaheim teams or is this just who he is now? You’re taking a big risk gambling on Gibson returning to form with 4 years left on his contract at 6.4 million a year.
 

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Just 1 thing with hellebuyck, winnipeg dont want to rebuild and winnipeg want NHL player... who leafs can send to Winnipeg for hellebuyck and making sense for winnipeg outside of top 4 and rielly?... Knies? Liljegren...i dont really know what leafs having available who can interest winnipeg

Thats why i think the best fit is Gibson
you dont think Jets would have interest in Marner or even Nylander?
 
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if it wasnt for Matthews constant back-checking and 2-way play, we'd have been out in round 1.
he'd likely say he was the best player, and wouldnt be that far off.
I would also say Rielly had a big role to play in that 1st round win as well. Just as much.
Could retool the team around Matthews/Rielly by moving others (core) to become more balanced in regular season and playoffs. Stronger from the net out and on D, with more bite on forward.
 
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If the Leafs are after Helly,

To Toronto-
Niederreiter
Helly

To Winnipeg-
Nylander
Robertson
28th overall pick
Murray
 

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Nylander trade will be the first big move.

Pretty sure Lewis Gross will not even enter any sort of discussion until the Matthews contract is done. Treliving will just dump Nylander rather than play that game.
 
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you dont think Jets would have interest in Marner or even Nylander?

Leafs already said they will not trade core 4... so why wasting time talking about trading someone of core 4 when we already know its would not happen outside of an offre impossible to refuse

Gibson would be a huge question mark. Are his numbers lower these past few years due to playing with some really bad Anaheim teams or is this just who he is now? You’re taking a big risk gambling on Gibson returning to form with 4 years left on his contract at 6.4 million a year.

I dont think hes that risky... im from Quebec so i can make you with habs...

Samuel Montenbeault is considerated like Habs MVP of regular season both by fan, media and whatever... He was at 3.42 GAA and 0.901 sv % and im totally agree with it... montenbeault was the besr habs player because he was the only reason habs was able to be able to stay close competitive with a chance to win in majority of team game...The reality is in those kind of team, you can watch goalie stats to know if hes good or not, you need to watch him play

Personally, i dont have any doubt in my mind than Gibson still a top 10 goalie just playing in the worst NHL team...
 
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huge overpay


at least then we would know who to hate more, Dubas or Keefe
I wouldn't say it's a huge overpay. You're moving Murray's contract off the books and replacing it with Helly. It's actually almost even when it comes to money in and money out, instead you're getting an all star goalie and a top 6 winger with size who can score. Robertson hasn't proved he can play in the nhl and injuries have really held him back, the 28th pick is pretty much for Winnipeg taking on Murray contract.
 

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Leafs already said they will not trade core 4... so why wasting time talking about trading someone of core 4 when we already know its would not happen outside of an offre impossible to refuse



I dont think hes that risky... im from Quebec so i can make you with habs...

Samuel Montenbeault is considerated like Habs MVP of regular season both by fan, media and whatever... He was at 3.42 GAA and 0.901 sv % and im totally agree with it... montenbeault was the besr habs player because he was the only reason habs was able to be able to stay close competitive with a chance to win in majority of team game...The reality is in those kind of team, you can watch goalie stats to know if hes good or not, you need to watch him play

Personally, i dont have any doubt in my mind than Gibson still a top 10 goalie just playing in the worst NHL team...
I have not seen or heard that in black and white, not from the gm anyways....3rd hand info stating Shanny telling the core that he wants them to stay means nothing to me. If matthews wants big money, Marner and or Nylander are gone.
 

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you can still both, but whoever had the bigger man crush on Holl gets a little extra hate sauce
We all know it was Dubas. Holl was his pet ECHL reclamation project made good. Keefe actually healthy scratched Holl several times including the playoffs.
 

thusk

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I have not seen or heard that in black and white, not from the gm anyways....3rd hand info stating Shanny telling the core that he wants them to stay means nothing to me. If matthews wants big money, Marner and or Nylander are gone.

Its a new gm, he will at least want to see what hes got in his hand before making a major deal like trading a core player...

I think the chance would be much higher to see a core player being trade if Dubas was getting an extension...

And i not telling its what ibwould like to see but its really unlikely to see anyone of core+rielly being move
 

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We all know it was Dubas. Holl was his pet ECHL reclamation project made good. Keefe actually healthy scratched Holl several times including the playoffs.
actauly, the evidence proves otherwise...
Dubas brought in Timmins, McCabe, Schenn, and Gustafsson, while we also had Lily playing in the top 4 all season long until a minor injury when he had a bad fall into the boards, and KEEFE elected to play Holl ahead of everyone save Schenn, and exited Lilly for Schenn and to keep Holl.

If Holl was Dubas's guy, he wouldnt have brought in 2 extra RHD and 2 LHD (and McCabe also plays RHD) to let Keefe replace Holl if he wanted.
this doesnt even include the fill in's Mete, and Benn (who played better than Holl also)
 

myleafs

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Its a new gm, he will at least want to see what hes got in his hand before making a major deal like trading a core player...

I think the chance would be much higher to see a core player being trade if Dubas was getting an extension...

And i not telling its what ibwould like to see but its really unlikely to see anyone of core+rielly being move
We will see soon enough but I have a feeling that it all comes down to Matthews and what his ask is which will then determine if at least one of the core get moved. And imo his ask is going to force Tre to move one of Marner/Nylander whether he wants to or not.
 

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