What to do with Morgan Rielly - TSN: Cut from squad.

[Stats01]

You also don't keep a prospect up because of who is coaching the team or the system they play. That to me would be kind of dumb.

 

[keonsbitterness]

Rielly isn't the Crosby or Stamkos of defensemen. I think we'll disagree on this one, I think Schenn was stunted with being rushed, expectations grew after having a great year, he got to RFA status quicker which meant more money quicker, which meant more pressure quicker. He wash't ready but as always we rushed a guy here because he looked good in camp..every other team in this league does it proper but somehow we have this notion that we have to keep them up. Rielly physically and age wise isn't ready for the NHL yet IMO

Agree on all counts.

 

[thewave]

Rielly isn't the Crosby or Stamkos of defensemen. I think we'll disagree on this one, I think Schenn was stunted with being rushed, expectations grew after having a great year, he got to RFA status quicker which meant more money quicker, which meant more pressure quicker. He wash't ready but as always we rushed a guy here because he looked good in camp..every other team in this league does it proper but somehow we have this notion that we have to keep them up. Rielly physically and age wise isn't ready for the NHL yet IMO

Our team is the Toronto Maple Leafs. Who cares about money? I beg to differ, he is a very special player.

 

[diceman934]

Rielly isn't the Crosby or Stamkos of defensemen. I think we'll disagree on this one, I think Schenn was stunted with being rushed, expectations grew after having a great year, he got to RFA status quicker which meant more money quicker, which meant more pressure quicker. He wash't ready but as always we rushed a guy here because he looked good in camp..every other team in this league does it proper but somehow we have this notion that we have to keep them up. Rielly physically and age wise isn't ready for the NHL yet IMO

Comparing Rielly to Schenn is like comparing a sports car to a family wagon. We are not talking about an ordinary high draft pick, but a very special D man who see's the ice far better then any D man we currently have. Is he ready to play in the NHL now.....yep....should the Leafs keep him, I will leave that to the Norris winning coach to decide.

 

[hotpaws]

I hope the kid gets sent back to jr . I don't need an 18 year old to be sold as our savior if this season turns to crap like it has a very good chance of doing .

 

[Bravid Nonahan]

In Moose Jaw he won't be playing like how he would in the NHL...he'll be lugging the puck a lot more, doing it by himself. I can't see the harm of keeping him up 5 games to see where he is at. If he's ready to make a solid contribution, great. If not, that's ok too. People get all wound up....it's 5 GAMES. It's nothing, really.

 

[achtungbaby]

If Burke said Rielly is the real deal and who he had as #1 in that draft. He will play, Yak is playing, the kid is not a kid he is decent sized and talented. He is going to play if only for his Ego's sake.

Every Canadian team said that their first round pick was used on a guy they had at number one. Take that with a large grain of salt. If Galy or Yak had been available, you know we would have taken them.

 

[zeke]

Schenn wasn't stunted, he just isn't a good player.

 

[SnipeCheeseAllDay]

What is up with so many people being scared of 'rushing' Rielly? If so many other 18 year olds break into the NHL and do well, why can't Rielly? If he shows he belongs here, then he belongs here. If he shows that he can keep up and do well vs NHL players, then he will learn a heck of a lot more vs them rather than in Moose Jaw vs kids.

Some players need more time, some players can break into the NHL at 18 and do well (many for that matter). So stop acting like NOT RUSHING HIM should be the only option here.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Back to JR.

 

[Razz]

What is up with so many people being scared of 'rushing' Rielly? If so many other 18 year olds break into the NHL and do well, why can't Rielly? If he shows he belongs here, then he belongs here. If he shows that he can keep up and do well vs NHL players, then he will learn a heck of a lot more vs them rather than in Moose Jaw vs kids.

Some players need more time, some players can break into the NHL at 18 and do well (many for that matter). So stop acting like NOT RUSHING HIM should be the only option here.

It's just typical Leaf fan insecurity. I agree with you though.

 

[Stats01]

Comparing Rielly to Schenn is like comparing a sports car to a family wagon. We are not talking about an ordinary high draft pick, but a very special D man who see's the ice far better then any D man we currently have. Is he ready to play in the NHL now.....yep....should the Leafs keep him, I will leave that to the Norris winning coach to decide.

He's not ready to play in the NHL right now, his skating is there, but defensively he needs work and physically he needs to get a bit bigger. Tell me why it's so necessary to rush him right now. Tell me why he can't go back to junior and have a successful season and have another WJHC next year?

 

[Stats01]

What is up with so many people being scared of 'rushing' Rielly? If so many other 18 year olds break into the NHL and do well, why can't Rielly? If he shows he belongs here, then he belongs here. If he shows that he can keep up and do well vs NHL players, then he will learn a heck of a lot more vs them rather than in Moose Jaw vs kids.

Some players need more time, some players can break into the NHL at 18 and do well (many for that matter). So stop acting like NOT RUSHING HIM should be the only option here.

We said the same thing about Schenn! I don't care that Rielly is a completely different style of player, they were both 18 and inexperienced and not ready. If he makes the team and next season he struggles, I hope you come back and eat crow. I can just see him having a year like Schenn did, and then people are going to start asking questions about if he was the right pick and bla bla. And I'll be here telling you "I told you so" I can just see that happening, it's going to be unfortunate.

 

[ACC1224]

Send him back, lock for the top 6 next year.

 

[Penalty Kill Icing*]

Mirtle says he will be sent back today.

 

[Stats01]

Schenn wasn't stunted, he just isn't a good player.

He was rushed, he got to RFA status quicker, he got his big contract quicker, he wasn't ready for all the hype and expectations and he put even more pressure on himself, the media was on him. He was definitely stunted. You can't tell me things would be the same if he went back to junior that here, had a great year for Kelowna and came in as a 19-20 year old with a training camp under his belt. Huge difference.

 

[Stats01]

Mirtle says he will be sent back today.

Good!

 

[Pi]

He was rushed, he got to RFA status quicker, he got his big contract quicker, he wasn't ready for all the hype and expectations and he put even more pressure on himself, the media was on him. He was definitely stunted. You can't tell me things would be the same if he went back to junior that here, had a great year for Kelowna and came in as a 19-20 year old with a training camp under his belt. Huge difference.

Schenn could not skate though.

A year in junior would not help that. He just can't skate. He might be good in a different system like Nashville maybe, but he'll struggle with the Flyers too.

Comparing Schenn and Rielly is not good. Rielly has the smarts, he's an elite skater, and one of the best set up man this team will have in the future.

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

What is up with so many people being scared of 'rushing' Rielly? If so many other 18 year olds break into the NHL and do well, why can't Rielly? If he shows he belongs here, then he belongs here. If he shows that he can keep up and do well vs NHL players, then he will learn a heck of a lot more vs them rather than in Moose Jaw vs kids.

Some players need more time, some players can break into the NHL at 18 and do well (many for that matter). So stop acting like NOT RUSHING HIM should be the only option here.

Under the Burke regime the Leafs have FINALLY set up a system whereby they let their prospects develop gradually and work out their issues BEFORE they make the show. The teams that are amongst the best developers do this. I think Leaf fans will soon start to see the benefits of that approach.

Could Reilly play? Sure. Could he benefit from working on areas of his game away from the TO spotlight? Definitely.

 

[zeke]

He was rushed, he got to RFA status quicker, he got his big contract quicker, he wasn't ready for all the hype and expectations and he put even more pressure on himself, the media was on him. He was definitely stunted. You can't tell me things would be the same if he went back to junior that here, had a great year for Kelowna and came in as a 19-20 year old with a training camp under his belt. Huge difference.

the dude can't skate.

he should never, ever, ever have been picked as high as he was.

 

[zeke]

Kevin McGran @kevin_mcgran
Gardiner has come out with Riemer, first two on the ice. looks like he'll practise with team


With Gardiner looking very close to coming back, sending Rielly down without the 5gm tryout makes more sense.

 

[Budsfan]

Mike Ulmer ‏@mulmer

Rielly, Frattin sent down. Lupul-Bozak-Kessel, MacArthur-Grabo-Kulemin, Komarov-Kadri-JVR, Brown-McLement-Orr or Steckel

 

[Mess]

Mike Ulmer ‏@mulmer

Rielly, Frattin sent down. Lupul-Bozak-Kessel, MacArthur-Grabo-Kulemin, Komarov-Kadri-JVR, Brown-McLement-Orr or Steckel

From TSN also:

Morgan Reilly will not be starting the season with the Toronto Maple Leafs as he and Matt Frattin will be the team's final cuts on Friday. Rielly, 18, was selected with the fifth overall pick in the 2012 NHL Draft. The Vancouver, B.C. native had three goals and 18 points in 18 games with Moose Jaw in the WHL last season. Full Story.

Its for the best as burning a year of his ELC for a 48 game schedule on a team with limited expectations for the season, wouldn't be in the teams best interest long-term.

 

[Kamal007]

Kevin McGran @kevin_mcgran
Gardiner has come out with Riemer, first two on the ice. looks like he'll practise with team


With Gardiner looking very close to coming back, sending Rielly down without the 5gm tryout makes more sense.

Claude Loiselle said they are not connected. Even if Gardiner was 20 games away, he would not have been kept up. Simply put, he wasn't ready.

 

[diceman934]

He's not ready to play in the NHL right now, his skating is there, but defensively he needs work and physically he needs to get a bit bigger. Tell me why it's so necessary to rush him right now. Tell me why he can't go back to junior and have a successful season and have another WJHC next year?

Who say's you are rushing a player if they have the skills to play the game at the NHL level.....you are not rushing them. His skating is Elite level, on ice awareness/vision elite level, offensive skills, NHL level. Physically at the NHL level, this kid is strong! Defensively he is ready, he just needs to play and adjust.

You want to send him back for this year and next.....why? I see this year but not next!